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DYM Diary! Lambert's In Town

edited November 2011 in Poker Chat
Evening all,

I really fancied a change from cash and I was reading John Connor's DYM guide has inspired me to give it a whirl, practice a different format of the game, maybe spin up my roll a bit and earn loads of C4P. So in true form of most annoying people on Sky, I've decided to start a diary to track my progress. I'll be mostly just posting up my progress in terms of wins/losses, profit/loss etc and maybe the odd hand or two when I've found myself in a situation where I'm really unsure.

So I've actually been doing it for a few days already, started last Thursday (a week yesterday) playing £3.30s and between the 29th Sep - 5th Oct, I played 24 games and won 13 of them so made a loss of £1.20.

It was after that I read John Connor's strategy properly and thought I'd stick to his BRM rule, 20 BIs so I moved to £5.50 (my BR is actually about 30 BIs for this level but it's not enough for the next jump up to £11).

So now I'm playing £5.50s until I get 22BIs for the next level (am I right it jumps from £5.50 to £11?)

I've played them today and yesterday, played 18, won 10 so £1 in profit making me 20p since I started. I'd we really grateful if people (preferably people who really know DYMs well) could give me their opinions on my stats and hands if I post some

I'll keep a running total of my success going so... so far its...

Played           42
Won              23
Profit/Loss    -20p
Win Rate       54.76%

Thanks Guys!!    (and Gals!)

Paul
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  • edited October 2011
    In Response to DYM Diary! Lambert's In Town:
    Evening all, I really fancied a change from cash and I was reading John Connor's DYM guide has inspired me to give it a whirl, practice a different format of the game, maybe spin up my roll a bit and earn loads of C4P. So in true form of most annoying people on Sky, I've decided to start a diary to track my progress. I'll be mostly just posting up my progress in terms of wins/losses, profit/loss etc and maybe the odd hand or two when I've found myself in a situation where I'm really unsure. So I've actually been doing it for a few days already, started last Thursday (a week yesterday) playing £3.30s and between the 29th Sep - 5th Oct, I played 24 games and won 13 of them so made a loss of £1.20. It was after that I read John Connor's strategy properly and thought I'd stick to his BRM rule, 20 BIs so I moved to £5.50 (my BR is actually about 30 BIs for this level but it's not enough for the next jump up to £11). So now I'm playing £5.50s until I get 22BIs for the next level (am I right it jumps from £5.50 to £11?) I've played them today and yesterday, played 18, won 10 so £1 in profit making me 20p since I started. I'd we really grateful if people (preferably people who really know DYMs well) could give me their opinions on my stats and hands if I post some I'll keep a running total of my success going so... so far its... Played           42 Won              23 Profit/Loss    -20p Win Rate       54.76% Thanks Guys!!    (and Gals!) Paul
    Posted by Lambert180

    Gl with that Paul .

  • edited October 2011
    Talk about a perfect example of the beauty of variance...

    Started up 2 DYMs, these 2 hands happened, 1 on each table within like 30 secs of each other, both in level 1.

    Hand 1, I get someone all in pre with AA, he has AK, I double up to 4k.

    Hand 2, I get someone all in pre with KK, he has AA, I'm out.

    That's the thing I find most frustrating about DYMs... your win rate has to be so high to make a profit and one bad beat, means you gotta win 2 in a row after that just to get back level.
  • edited October 2011
    From personaly experiance I would advise NOT playing DYM's mate, you're cash game is VERY solid and you will make very good profits at it longterm, just look how quickly you beat NL4, I say get back to it and ride out the beats.

    You also just stated the main reason why I hate them lose one have to win two to just break even, and whats worse the guy who beat you can run away and take ya money at least at cash you say to yourself nice one mate and just wait for him to hand it to you later.
  • edited October 2011
    I thought you might say that Dude lol, I know you hate DYMs.

    I do know what ya mean, but I definitely think I could turn a good profit from them, like I'm 20p down now but quite a few of my losses can be put down to coolers like above or bad beats, so I'm doing ok even though I'm losing 60/40s and 70/30s just one after another.

    Plus the other night, I earned like 75-80 poker points for like 2 hours work. No way I could ever earn that at my level of cash. I reckon I could easy get  5000+ points when I start properly grinding them.
  • edited October 2011
    dyms are your friend if you can put the volume in and get lots of c4p. your never gonna make millions from them, but you can steadily increase ur br.

    if it's what u want to do, then stick at them.

    Personally i play them for minimal profit and c4p, but also grind mtts too.

    gl
  • edited October 2011
    Well yeah, I suspect I can make a very decent profit from C4P and just make a tiny profit from actual winnings.
  • edited October 2011
    Yh C4P probably helps a lot, best to give yourself like 100-200 games and then see where you stand.

    Good luck anyway ;).
  • edited October 2011
    if you are a disciplined player who is happy to grind then you have a good chance of being succesfull

    if you are a bit of an action junkie who gets bored easy then you will start hating them so so much

    either way good luck :)
  • edited October 2011
    Right, that's another night completed, so my updated figures are...

    Played          54
    Won             30
    Profit/Loss    +£4.00
    Win Rate     55.55%     (up ever so slightly)

    Got myself into profit today, despite a couple of races where I was miles ahead pre and managed to lose.

    Now up to 204 poker points after only a couple of proper days this month.
  • edited October 2011

    You've got to lose the mentally of " losing one, so then i have to win 2",  with this you will just get frustrated very easily.  If you can multil-table 3 or 4 at a time and try not to worry about the games you lose so much, just play your game and get it in good as much as possible,  even making a little proffit a week will become much greater proffit over a month, thanks to the cash for points. I mainly play DYM's and grafted up through the levels what seems like forever ago, its hard work but with the right mentality and commitment its easily done.  GL

  • edited October 2011
    I'm with Dudeskin, i hate these things. I have only really had a few sessions at them and i encountered the same problems you have with the variance and the rake. Useful for C4P though.

    Anyway, good luck Lambert.
  • edited October 2011
    Actually, could the mods move this to the Clinic if possible, I was just thinking it's probably more fitting to be in there, especially if I start posting the odd hand in it.

    Plus I'd probably get more through traffic :)
  • edited October 2011
    Lambert i dont think i diary is suitable for the clinic tbh. what i do is i have my diary where i post the odd had and get a little feedback but as you said your unlikley to post lots of hands. I post hands where i think i made a massive mistake or i want anlysis i post in clinic giving most hands an idividual thread which gives me better responces.


    Im with dudeskin although ive always hated dyms. However i wish you the best of luck.
  • edited October 2011
    Intersting thread Lambert i hope it goes well for you with the DYM'S.
  • edited October 2011
    gl with the dyms m8,im having a break from playing poker for a while but i play mainly dyms and have showed a decent profit over the past few weeks.
  • edited October 2011
    Good luck with this Lambert, I for one will be watching with interest.
  • edited October 2011
    Great thread Lambert

    I note that your results are inproving, which is good. As you play more you get into the swing of the things and can make steady progress up the levels. If your playing solid poker the results will come.

    The profit margin is never gonna be as close as cash though friend, these are more fun and fillers.

    I'll keep my on your results and try avoid you at the tables haha.

    Thanx for the comments on the video's by the way
  • edited October 2011
    Evening Chaps...

    Latest Update:

    Played          70
    Won             39
    Profit/Loss   +£6.00
    Win Rate      55.71%

    So another very small increase in my win rate and profit, feels like it's going well.

    Also, I'm now up 284 Poker Points.

    EDIT: Just had a look through my HH for the night and in the 16 games I played tonight, there's only about 10 hands where I lost 1000+ chips and every single one of them was completely standard, just things like losing a race with AQ against KJ and so on. So I guess I may have made mistakes in terms of possibly getting more value (I dunno) but didn't make any mistakes in losing big hands.
  • edited October 2011
    Lambert mate , scrap this idea as its sooooooooooooooo diff 2 win moniez , ure a decent player , play the hyper heads up mate , lots of fish in there and its a quick profit makin game , i think approx ive won 9/12 latest at between £3 and £10 and got approx 60% roi , not bad
  • edited October 2011
    GL . IMO its all about the mindset i do love DYM but only if im in the mood
  • edited October 2011
    good luck, think you will win more moniez playing cash but reep the C4P in DYM's

    Maybe you should consider playing both, depending how many table you can play.
    I would suggets playing 4 cash, 4 DYM's.

    DYM's do become very robot like and will become easy to play.

    As for cash, you have an edge at the level you play so why not play it ?
  • edited October 2011
    Wowwww I just got horribly unlucky against you :(
  • edited October 2011
    Lol yeah sorry about that Poker_Fail, but I'm sure you'll agree, I'm never folding KK when I'm a big stack and you're the short stack on the bubble
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM Diary! Lambert's In Town:
    good luck, think you will win more moniez playing cash but reep the C4P in DYM's Maybe you should consider playing both, depending how many table you can play. I would suggets playing 4 cash, 4 DYM's. DYM's do become very robot like and will become easy to play. As for cash, you have an edge at the level you play so why not play it ?
    Posted by rancid
    I assume you're not saying this as a negative point. Obviously my aim is for them to be really easy.

    Yes I have an edge at my level of cash, but I also have an edge at these DYMs, if I didn't, I wouldn't play them.

  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM Diary! Lambert's In Town:
    In Response to Re: DYM Diary! Lambert's In Town : I assume you're not saying this as a negative point. Obviously my aim is for them to be really easy. Yes I have an edge at my level of cash, but I also have an edge at these DYMs, if I didn't, I wouldn't play them.
    Posted by Lambert180
    na it's not meant in a negative )
  • edited October 2011
    Just between DYMs and 1 or 2 MTTs at around 5 quid BI's. I've made about a 100 quid profit and +250 poker points last few days, even including a small downswing of about 40 quid at one point.

    If you want to grind DYMs you have to play incredibly tight, ideally sharkscope for losing players at the table and be prepared to get down to last 4 as a chip leader and still go out because of random hands occurring around table! If you make last 4, which you should, about 90% of the time at least unless you are unlucky, just play uber tight and be prepared for the variance that comes with shove or fold play.

    I've improved my win rate at DYM's a lot since tightening up my play and being very patient waiting for others to make mistakes. I can't stress enough that as the blinds increase, don't play a hand unless you have good cards, preferably position, and always take account of the other chip stacks - if you raise 300 with AJ and a short stack with 1500 moves all in, it's hard to call and if you lose you're in a struggle and have lost a big advantage.
  • edited October 2011
    Yeah definitely agree with most of that. The annoying ones are the odd ones that get to blinds 150/300 ish and still have 6 people in them. I've been doing pretty well so far today, I'll update the thread after I've finished the 4 I'm playing now.

    One thing I did wanna ask people about though. Quite often I'm raising pre with strong hands in position like AK...and AQ/AJ/KQ if the blinds are around 50/100. Then i often get someone call OOP and then lead out on the flop and I just let go instantly.

    E.G. I raise pre with AQ and get one caller OOP, flop comes J84 and they donk bet and I just let go.

    I wouldn't normally do this ALL the time in other formats but these are so shallow and it seems best to just get rid when you don't connect with the board but is this a part of my game that could be very easy to exploit??
  • edited October 2011
    Afternoon Folks. Here is my latest update on my progress...

    Played         89
    Won            50
    Profit/Loss    +£11.50
    Win Rate      56.18%

    Up to 379 Poker Points now.

    I'm taking a little break for a bit but intend to get in another session tonight and smash the 100 game barrier.
  • edited October 2011
    As the blinds increase, it's wiser to lower preflop raises (sometimes just call/min raise) and be mindful of position and chip stacks of players left to act, regardless of hand strength. As the blinds reach 100/200 or so, any sort of raise, particularly a 2x, is pricing people in to shove and leaving you with a difficult choice if you have a strong but not premium hand.

    As for situation just described, it's hard to say but as blinds increase bluffs and plays without hands become rarer and the consequences for chasing a hand or being called down by a real hand are devastating - normally a bustout/crippled chip stack.

    If you become the short stack with 4 people left the collusion to blind you down begins and it's an uphill battle.

    Having a good win rate in these is a lot more a question of patience and NOT making errors than it is of great plays post flop. You'll be amazed how often people throw away a comfortable chip lead on the bubble by making bad decisions pre flop.
  • edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM Diary! Lambert's In Town:
    Lol yeah sorry about that Poker_Fail, but I'm sure you'll agree, I'm never folding KK when I'm a big stack and you're the short stack on the bubble
    Posted by Lambert180
    I know it was just such a nasty spot for me, gg
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