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The "Sky Joker"

unknown_usernameunknown_username
edited November 2011 in Poker Chat
I used to think that anyone who played live poker with headphones on was quite amusing and could never understand the necessity. But having played in a few live events i'm changing my opinion.

What really bugs me is, local live players who think that online players, especially "Sky Players" are a bit of a joke. You make an simple honest mistake and local yokal has to have his say and stick his two pennies worth in, constantly reminding you that live poker is nothing like "Sky Poker".

You don't have "Antes", you only play "Six Max", Oh! you must be a Sky Poker Player, this is a real game etc etc. Has anyone else experienced this live at SPT?

I know players use these type of tacktics to put you off your game but I am proud to be a Sky Player and it annoys me that we get tarred and feathered at some of these events just because we enjoy our online poker.

Personally I think we have some great players representing Sky Poker at live events and its a shame that we don't get the acknowledgment or respect we deserve at the tables.

Is there anything we can do to enhance the reputation of our Sky Players at live events? or should I just get a set of headphones? :)

I suppose we will just have to get out there and keep proving them wrong until they sit up and notice.

See you all in Newcastle for another great adventure.
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited November 2011
    Sky are starting to get a good reputation on the poker circuit with TSP etc. It shows by seeing some of the names willing to play on Sky off their own backs.

    What doesn't help is all the forum teams. Controversial statement I know, it seems to create a great bond and rivalry on the site so its fine, but if you want to be respected by regular live/pro players. Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility.


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  • CrazyBen23CrazyBen23
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility.
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Award for worst team name in history is a close battle between them and team poker trev. lol'd at this thread in general ahhah
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Sky are starting to get a good reputation on the poker circuit with TSP etc. It shows by seeing some of the names willing to play on Sky off their own backs. What doesn't help is all the forum teams. Controversial statement I know, it seems to create a great bond and rivalry on the site so its fine, but if you want to be respected by regular live/pro players. Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility.
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Although it pains me to say it, I think you could be right as far as the live events are concerned. Its great fun online and it can be great fun also if you like the banter at these events.

    I'm proud to represent TPT but i'm seriously thinking of attending incognito, back to my "Suited & Booted" ways for the Newcastle event just to see if I can get an edge. 
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited November 2011
    tbh most live players have no clue about poker, both live or online so I would just ignore them...its like the go LOLOLOL Sky players are the worst but then they don't play on here?  makes no sense.

    also a lot of the comments about sky come from the fact that they tried it out when Sky first launched.  back then the site was just really bad in terms of functionality, structures and ease of use etc so I can kind of understand.



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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : Although it pains me to say it, I think you could be right as far as the live events are concerned. Its great fun online and it can be great fun also if you like the banter at these events. I'm proud to represent TPT but i'm seriously thinking of attending incognito, back to my "Suited & Booted" ways for the Newcastle event just to see if I can get an edge. 
    Posted by POKERTREV
    being in a suit in cash games etc is usually the sign of a true punter who has too much money so would probably generate you some action



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  • pod1pod1
    edited November 2011
    ditto  to scottys post. "most" live players are pub players at best and because of that there "feedback" on sky or any other online site is pretty lame. just go onto the 50/1 and 1/2 cash tables live and look at the standard. most nl30 regs here would more than hold there own. dont get me wrong i love live and i love playing on sky just for different reasons. ps on the team thing. you have team things for live games apat springs to mind and what about the hendon mob. from little acorns .....
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Sky are starting to get a good reputation on the poker circuit with TSP etc. It shows by seeing some of the names willing to play on Sky off their own backs. What doesn't help is all the forum teams. Controversial statement I know, it seems to create a great bond and rivalry on the site so its fine, but if you want to be respected by regular live/pro players. Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility.
    Posted by FlashFlush

    So playing for and representing 'Sky' holds no credibility then or is it just the forum teams you are against?. Is Sky Poker not a Team?

    TKP members dealt the majority/if not all of the Sky Poker organised SnG's at the Final in DTD plus we were commended by both Simon Trumper and Rob Young for our team colours and togetherness. Whether yourself or others look down on these teams holds no bearing on the fact that we are a team and are proud of being so. We also play as individuals on the tables but having an extra bit of support/rail will help at times.

    The reputation of Sky is separate form this I know but if it was really that bad, would Sky try to discourage the teams at SPT's instead of encouraging them as they do now?

    PS...your application to join TKP has been refused......again :)

    Edit - Are you not part of the 'swindon massive'? Would you not class them as a 'team'?
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  • pod1pod1
    edited November 2011
    "swindon massive! enough said lol
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited November 2011
    I think there are some valid points made - Maybe live players are not the full package and this is why they taunt us and turn their noses up at us.

    A good point made also by maxally too regarding Teams at live events. I was watching the WSOP last night and the hendon mob plus a few others were mentioned on more than one occasion.

    Maybe in years to come our own teams may have the same fearful and respected reputation.   
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited November 2011

    The teams have just got far farrrrrrrrrrrrrrr too big imo (include TSP in that)

    10 to a team is about right. 

    I would like all team members to try and name all their team mates off the top of their head, and take an average...

    I reckon most teams average wud be below 60%


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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited November 2011
    Im not going to comment on Trevs origional post as many have said my statements, i play 2p/4p online and i more than hold my own in the live 1/2 and 50/1 games in Edinburgh, i know thats one city and there obv some decent players but you can spot these within 3 - 4 hands.

    Ive played 3 UKIPTs always wearing my orange TKP colours, people often do say to me, "what does it mean?", "what do you do?" and "whys that the name?" infact i had a well known player in Dublin showing more interest than others and the reaction is almost always friendly. I think being in a team offers diff things to different people. What TKP offers me is support, now as a player with a bad mind set this little bit of extra support means the world to me.

    Do i like the name? Well tbh thats not for me to choose. I imagine the same goes in football, you may support and love a team, but at times wish it was named something else. Im not saying this is correct of coarse.

    I think its all down to personal opinion.
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  • SoLackSoLack
    edited November 2011
    Its when you get a gobby dealer (DTD) that I wish I had earphones. 
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  • pod1pod1
    edited November 2011
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    edited November 2011
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited November 2011
    Hav u edited that list Pod? I thought Gregs real surname was Hogg, 'Greg Hogg' ????

    I dunno what qualifications you need to build bridges, but in my exams, you're not allowed to copy !!!!!
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Hav u edited that list Pod? I thought Gregs real surname was Hogg, 'Greg Hogg' ???? I dunno what qualifications you need to build bridges, but in my exams, you're not allowed to copy !!!!!
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    u know what my name is u idiot
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited November 2011
    In reply to the OP.

    Casinos attract all kinds of people.  Casinos have always attracted plenty of doofus types.  Some of these play poker.  Now the lesser spotted doofus local player will always think they are much better than any new player to the cardroom, regardless of who the player is or where the player plays online.  At last season's SPT Luton I saw a local player I have seen plenty around London pretty much speak down to Jullian Thew and his play while not having an idea who he was.  Now I've played that player plenty and I crush him, now imagine the skill gap between him and Yoyo.  Needless to say the smiling Sky Pro bust him within the next half hour.  At the Nottingham 6 max I had two local players on my table.  One was an absolute delight, a very pleasant and intelligent older gentleman.  The other was an annoying, arrogant and unpleasant gentleman who felt he was too good to be playing the tournament, spent most of the time on his phone arranging some kind of meeting and telling the whole table at showdown what card would have given him everyones' chips while the pot was going in the other direction.

    If you play live you have to deal with these sorts.  Shrug your shoulders and move on.  Don't bother them with a second thought.

    Conclusion:  Poker attracts plenty of idiots.  Deal with it.
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  • MohicanMohican
    edited November 2011
    This is how I see it.
    I can understand Flashflushes point about not joining a team if you're a semi-pro/pro player and those type of players on the site  are not generally members of teams. I'm fine with that and their reasoning.
     For me, SPT events are as much a night/weekend out as playing poker. Being in a team gives the chance to indulge in some banter within the team and other teams and reflects what Skypoker is about, enjoying poker.Long may it continue.
     As for other players deriding Sky players, who cares what they think. If they were any good they'd be playing EPT'S,WSOPE events etc, not sat at a £45 buy in on a Saturday afternoon in deepest darkest Luton with me. Also, I suspect, a lot of Skyplayers are on other sites like me and play  full ring, antes etc, so it's really an invalid point any way.
     I enjoy playing Sky,online and live, and will use words that I'm not allowed to on here to those who think my poker opinion is less valid because I choose to play with Sky.
     
    regards,
    Mohican
    Chief Eyejammer,
    Team HitSquad.
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  • MohicanMohican
    edited November 2011
    I'd also like to add that i've had a lot of fun at SPT events with those who aren't in a team and the semipro/pro players, especially at the bar afterwards
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  • SolarCarroSolarCarro
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Sky are starting to get a good reputation on the poker circuit with TSP etc. It shows by seeing some of the names willing to play on Sky off their own backs. What doesn't help is all the forum teams. Controversial statement I know, it seems to create a great bond and rivalry on the site so its fine, but if you want to be respected by regular live/pro players. Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility.
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Grow up Charlie (ps I am not TKP anymore)
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  • SolarCarroSolarCarro
    edited November 2011
    Interestingly

    Sky Poker Tour 2010/2011 Every Friday night casino event was won by a Sky Poker player

    Eyeman and myself chopped Newcastle, Rosjim won Leeds hu with Thewy, Lisa Marie Long won Cardiff heads up with RosJim, I think Tikay won Blackpool and I remember penguin7 winning in Glasgow the year before

    Then of course Rich Orford won the Sat night game at Leeds

    EDIT - Scotty77 Friday night SPT Side event 6 Max, HappyNige chop Sat night

    No coincidence Sky players win regular casino events
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  • WilhelmWilhelm
    edited November 2011
    Question for Paul and Tikay.  As you're here Rich, you can answer too, if you like.  If you had to be stuck in a lift for eight hours, who would you take with you?

    Edit: wrong thread
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  • GLifUloseGLifUlose
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    back then the site was just really bad in terms of functionality, structures and ease of use etc so I can kind of understand.
    Posted by scotty77
    Suprising you used the past tense tbh
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Sky are starting to get a good reputation on the poker circuit with TSP etc. It shows by seeing some of the names willing to play on Sky off their own backs. What doesn't help is all the forum teams. Controversial statement I know, it seems to create a great bond and rivalry on the site so its fine, but if you want to be respected by regular live/pro players. Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility.
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Your all forgetting this sentence.

    I'm not slagging off the teams as a whole. They are good for the forum/competitiveness, my point is if you want to get credibility outside of Sky then it just won't happen.

    If you want to just have fun and make friends they are perfect, but that is not what the OP is all about...
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    EDIT  The original post quoted here was removed by the Mods.  Out of respect I have removed the same post I quoted here - TommyD
    Posted by Rknowlez
    I know a couple of venues in the London/Essex area which do not employ antes.  I would love for you to go in one in particular, call the place a joke and the players pathetic.

    Yes I agree that Stars is the best site going, but that's hardly breaking news is it.  I'm struggling to work out how you are a self admitted losing player here if the players are so bad in general.  Oh and by the by, I've come across plenty of players on the likes of Stars who really do not play optimally.  I consider it a total myth that the general player-base on Stars is solid, it's so far from that case it's unreal.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : I know a couple of venues in the London/Essex area which do not employ antes.  I would love for you to go in one in particular, call the place a joke and the players pathetic. Yes I agree that Stars is the best site going, but that's hardly breaking news is it.  I'm struggling to work out how you are a self admitted losing player here if the players are so bad in general.  Oh and by the by, I've come across plenty of players on the likes of Stars who really do not play optimally.  I consider it a total myth that the general player-base on Stars is solid, it's so far from that case it's unreal.
    Posted by TommyD
    if he does, can you stick it on u-tube please!

    :)
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited November 2011
    Why is the best site the site where all players play optimaly. Surely the best site is full off fish? #commonsense
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  • RknowlezRknowlez
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : I know a couple of venues in the London/Essex area which do not employ antes.  I would love for you to go in one in particular, call the place a joke and the players pathetic. Yes I agree that Stars is the best site going, but that's hardly breaking news is it.  I'm struggling to work out how you are a self admitted losing player here if the players are so bad in general.  Oh and by the by, I've come across plenty of players on the likes of Stars who really do not play optimally.  I consider it a total myth that the general player-base on Stars is solid, it's so far from that case it's unreal.
    Posted by TommyD
    I'm by no means saying im the best player out there and no doubt about it there is bad players on stars i admit i play casually for a hobby and make money elsewhere  gambling. However i have lots of ffriedns in poekr who do play alot and after playing on Sky and seeing how stupid some aspects are its ridiculous. On starts there wont be any little forum tea parties with people buying t shirts to match the colour of their teams. The vast majority of live tournaments is antes form what i have seen and i have relatively little experience but that is just a personal preference of mine to play with antes and i did not mean no antes resulted in the players being bad. I just belive that the standard of play is so bad at some leves and im not good enough to exploit tis unliek some players. Just occasionally looking at theis forum makes me Lol if its not "Happy Birthday" here its somehting team related and poeple runnign £1 tourneys or complaining that the site only accomades for bigger br is just pathetic at time 
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Why is the best site the site where all players play optimaly. Surely the best site is full off fish? #commonsense
    Posted by FlashFlush
    You're right Flash, I should clarify my statement.  Stars is the best site when it comes to software, quantity of player-base and game choice (variants as well as amount of running cash tables and tournaments) IMO.  Their support and security is also quite good although I am still not completely in love with cashout speed (then again until we reach pretty much get snap withdrawals to match snap deposits I'm not going to be totally happy).
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : You're right Flash, I should clarify my statement.  Stars is the best site when it comes to software, quantity of player-base and game choice (variants as well as amount of running cash tables and tournaments) IMO.  Their support and security is also quite good although I am still not completely in love with cashout speed (then again until we reach pretty much get snap withdrawals to match snap deposits I'm not going to be totally happy).
    Posted by TommyD
    Yeah I know what you meant m8. It wasn't directed at your comment. It was just in general really where you always people say "Sky is soooo bad the play is awful"  IMO that should read "Sky is great the standard is sooo awful".

    I've only ever really played on Sky, I've been on here since they 1st started so I don't have anything to compare it with but I can't imagine the standard between sites varies that much.
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