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  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Interestingly Sky Poker Tour 2010/2011 Every Friday night casino event was won by a Sky Poker player Eyeman and myself chopped Newcastle, Rosjim won Leeds hu with Thewy, Lisa Marie Long won Cardiff heads up with RosJim, I think Tikay won Blackpool and I remember penguin7 winning in Glasgow the year before Then of course Rich Orford won the Sat night game at Leeds No coincidence Sky players win regular casino events
    Posted by SolarCarro
    Cos of the "Rigged number generator"?
  • edited November 2011
    I agree with flashflush and others re the outsiders argument that sky's full of terrible players. If we're so bad why aren't these sharks all logged on pawning us?!

    The opening post mentions another comment made by outsiders that we play 6-max so must be bad. I've never understood their point, 6-max makes for good gameplay, especially online when players are multi-tabling. Can anyone enlighten me as to why others think it's inferior?
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    I agree with flashflush and others re the outsiders argument that sky's full of terrible players. If we're so bad why aren't these sharks all logged on pawning us?! The opening post mentions another comment made by outsiders that we play 6-max so must be bad. I've never understood their point, 6-max makes for good gameplay, especially online when players are multi-tabling. Can anyone enlighten me as to why others think it's inferior?
    Posted by richtea
    Because most live MTTs are full ring.  As a result most lifetime live only cardroom regs can either wait for hands or go loose passive preflop and it doesn't hurt them that much.  You can't wait for hands at 6 max and you can't be passive against decent players.  In other words most live only players can't play 6 max.
  • edited November 2011
    Re OP:

    If players are not able to command respect at an SPT then it is due to their perceived game by the other players and NOT because they play on XYZ poker site somewhere.

    There has always been a divide between 'live' players who think they are soooooooo much better because they learned the game the hard way vs the internet players who show them that is simply no longer the case!!

    If you are at an SPT event and the locals think it's funny to call light because you play on Sky then isn't that the optimum way to get to the FT or am I missing something? Sky's credibility comes in when our players repeatedly take down the side events and own the cash tables... And that is what the local's dont like!!!

    FWIW, being in a team does not detract from the skill of the team players at SPT's, Nor do we reduce credibility of such events. The fact is as the guarantees get bigger more and more 'names' will come to play... and most of them will leave saying they thoroughly enjoyed playing at the event...
     
    You'd be hard pressed to find a player, local or otherwise that doesn't enjoy the friendliness, banter and camaraderie at SPT's... They really are unique live events and should be respected as such...

    xx
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to The "Sky Joker":
    I used to think that anyone who played live poker with headphones on was quite amusing and could never understand the necessity. But having played in a few live events i'm changing my opinion. What really bugs me is, local live players who think that online players, especially "Sky Players" are a bit of a joke. You make an simple honest mistake and local yokal has to have his say and stick his two pennies worth in, constantly reminding you that live poker is nothing like "Sky Poker". You don't have "Antes", you only play "Six Max", Oh! you must be a Sky Poker Player, this is a real game etc etc. Has anyone else experienced this live at SPT? I know players use these type of tacktics to put you off your game but I am proud to be a Sky Player and it annoys me that we get tarred and feathered at some of these events just because we enjoy our online poker. Personally I think we have some great players representing Sky Poker at live events and its a shame that we don't get the acknowledgment or respect we deserve at the tables. Is there anything we can do to enhance the reputation of our Sky Players at live events? or should I just get a set of headphones? :) I suppose we will just have to get out there and keep proving them wrong until they sit up and notice. See you all in Newcastle for another great adventure.
    Posted by POKERTREV
    Hi Trev,

    Sadly, the thread got a bit hijacked, but here's my take.

    I've heard the comments more & more of late, & the more I hear them, the better I like it. It proves that Sky Poker is making it's mark on the scene. Three years ago, the trolls never mentioned us, now we are the talk of the town.

    Worth remembering that almost every Online Poker Site you can name has lost traffic in the last year, some, like i-Poker, Laddies, Blue Square, in excess of 25%. Even 'Stars, though with good reason, are down. Sky Poker is the exact opposite, trading at far higher traffic levels y-o-y.

    A year or so ago, Sir Alex was complaining about his noisy neighbours. Now look at those noisy neighbours.

    Just ignore it Trev.   
     
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to The "Sky Joker" : Hi Trev, Sadly, the thread got a bit hijacked, but here's my take. I've heard the comments more & more of late, & the more I hear them, the better I like it. It proves that Sky Poker is making it's mark on the scene. Three years ago, the trolls never mentioned us, now we are the talk of the town. Worth remembering that almost every Online Poker Site you can name has lost traffic in the last year, some, like i-Poker, Laddies, Blue Square, in excess of 25%. Even 'Stars, though with good reason, are down. Sky Poker is the exact opposite, trading at far higher traffic levels y-o-y. A year or so ago, Sir Alex was complaining about his noisy neighbours. Now look at those noisy neighbours. Just ignore it Trev.     
    Posted by Tikay10
    Hi Tikay
    You could be right (As you always are) maybe people/live players are taking note of Sky Players more and more and we are a more formidable force than we realise.

    If anything I would like to take the whole sky ensemble and everything it stands for (individually or as a Team) and say......we are here.......We are here to play and we are a force to be reckoned with.

    FWIW - i've changed my mind after seeing all the posts on here and I want to represent sky to the max and strive for the respect that sky players deserve, and if a sky/team player wins..... I want the whole world to know about it.

    There have been some good arguments for and against teams at live events and also some valid points regarding online players as opposed to live players.

    Personally I would love for Sky Players to command the respect that they deserve at live events and so from now on, I will use this to my advantage and big us up at every opportunity at the live tables.

    Come on Sky - We Rock!!!!!!!
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : Suprising you used the past tense tbh
    Posted by GLifUlose
    Were you around at the launch?  Think the open was 7 min blinds, ridic levels, 1500 chips...the site was full of bugs...could only 4 table MAX...couldn't resize tables/no mini view....ummm had to manually type in the amounts to reload on cash...you could rathole....probably loads of other stuff that I've forgotten.

    But yeah while Sky isn't perfect, and can't claim to have the softaware/functionality of the 'big boys'...it has certainly come on a MASSIVE amount in the last 3/4 years.

    And also tbh I wouldn't want Sky to become a stars clone.  And I wouldn't wwant them to go down the iPoker route of just licensing the software on that horrible horrible network.  

    But yh I understand why you would think the way that you do.

    ANYWAY to the team thing I can see with my own eyes at every SPT how much they bring to the site. 

    I think that Flash has a point in that when trying to describe the whole team thing to random casino people that they might give you funnny looks/its prob not something you wanna talk about....I think you have to be at SPTs to really **GET** the teams.

    And Solarcarro - I continued the trend for winning the Firday night side event into the 2011/12 season of the SPT at the 6 max /bragggggggg
  • edited November 2011
    Alot of other forums regs have put in good posts on this topic so i'll keep mine (for me) fairly short, so....

    OP, i think most bad Live players scoff at online players nowadays. They are scared and hate to admit that anyone can be better than them be playing something that isn't "real poker" involving physical cards, chips etc. And instead of wanting to get better and possibly accepting that they arn't very good, it's much easier and more satisfying for them to deny the idea of you being better than them altogether and just go into denial about it all. (similarly, this is how people who think online poker is rigged start).

    Point is, if they are giving you stick, they are either,
    1) Actually worried about you as a poker player, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to oust you.
    2) Only messing around but have little/no idea of how to show that they arn't being serious.
    3) Giving most players 'banter' for no reason, i.e. just being an out and out douchebag.

    So tbh, i'd just ignore it and take it as a compliment that they feel the need to verbally jab you at the table. Just do the talking with your chips man! :) Get Aces over Kings and BOOM. Hevad Khan their @ss :P

    EDIT: Just read Tikay's post and he's bang on. What a f****ng bause :P TK FTW.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Sky are starting to get a good reputation on the poker circuit with TSP etc. It shows by seeing some of the names willing to play on Sky off their own backs. What doesn't help is all the forum teams. Controversial statement I know, it seems to create a great bond and rivalry on the site so its fine, but if you want to be respected by regular live/pro players. Saying you are in a team called "Team Knight Plop" etc etc isn't going to help your credibility.
    Posted by FlashFlush
    A ridiculous statement this above .

    Tkp , TEAM51 ,TPT, THS , e.tc.  are  fun forum teams that play a few live sky mtts events &
    are not sponsored by skypoker .

    TSP is the sky poker sponsored team.

    To compare the above  is just silly .
    Some poker players play  for fun & some play for a living ,
    to try bundle everyone in to the one category is just ridiculous .

  • edited November 2011
    How about Sky Poker players agree to make a 2012 New Year's Resolution:

    "In 2012, Sky Poker players of all levels will go out and smash up tournaments up and down the UK. GUKPTs, local casino tourneys, even the game against your family at the kitchen table."

    Stick it in their eye, I say.
  • edited November 2011

    The teams on sky are purely because it’s a UK based site and we brits love a nice community spirit feel to things and it’s probably a lot to do with our pub/sports culture. Players outside or this have no clue and frankly do we really care what they think anyway, just beat em init.

    The team thing is not for me for now, doesn’t mean you should show disrespect towards it.

     

    Live v Online, all such tosh – it’s well known online players are technically better.

    While live players should be better with live tells …….

     Mix the two together and bang….. total player )

  • edited November 2011
    I for one think the teams are a great idea, and i don't see how being in a team could make a good player bad, surely its the opposite.

    I only joined sky in January, i never played online before and only a couple of times live one of my old work colleagues arranged a 50max tournement at a community centre so never in a casino.

    I wasnt very good to start with and sort of lost interest abit, but then i joined team 51 and it keeps it more interesting, it brings out the competiness you and it made me want to play more.

    On our facebook page we have tips from the likes of Elsadog, SUPERSNEDD, IRISHROVER and JOHNCONNOR, all of whom are very talented and 'winning' players.

    Without team 51 i wouldnt of learnt as much as i know now, my sharkscope is finally in profit and im enjoying poker. all through being in a team. without this facebook group i wouldnt be able to communicate with my team members to get advice or to rail me when im on a FT.

    +515151 for teams.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    How about Sky Poker players agree to make a 2012 New Year's Resolution: "In 2012, Sky Poker players of all levels will go out and smash up tournaments up and down the UK. GUKPTs, local casino tourneys, even the game against your family at the kitchen table." Stick it in their eye, I say.
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    thats abit aggressive Dave for sum1 who works for sky,have you been CRB checked ;)
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    How about Sky Poker players agree to make a 2012 New Year's Resolution: "In 2012, Sky Poker players of all levels will go out and smash up tournaments up and down the UK. GUKPTs, local casino tourneys, even the game against your family at the kitchen table." Stick it in their eye, I say.
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    WHEN I PLAY AGAINST FAMILY AN FREINDS IT NORM GETS STUCK UP THEIR JACKSY
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : thats abit aggressive Dave for sum1 who works for sky,have you been CRB checked ;)
    Posted by stokefc
    Haha! Yes - obviously you only stick in the eye of those who are able to defend themselves, etc.
  • edited November 2011
    im with u dave.

    I rekon if we play as many live events as we can, GUKPTS, UKIPTs, WPTS (in yoyos case), and local casino events, we can really show them who sky poker are. We have some good players on sky with the ability to shake up the poker world. 

    P.S. Dave do you know when VIVA LAS VEGAS will be starting again.  
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    How about Sky Poker players agree to make a 2012 New Year's Resolution: "In 2012, Sky Poker players of all levels will go out and smash up tournaments up and down the UK. GUKPTs, local casino tourneys, even the game against your family at the kitchen table." Stick it in their eye, I say.
    Posted by Sky_Dave

    Sky patches for all FTW?
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    How about Sky Poker players agree to make a 2012 New Year's Resolution: "In 2012, Sky Poker players of all levels will go out and smash up tournaments up and down the UK. GUKPTs, local casino tourneys, even the game against your family at the kitchen table." Stick it in their eye, I say.
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    I'm with you on this one Dave - Lets all stand up and be counted :)
  • edited November 2011
    January the 1st, somebody who is commited should start a thread for "Live poker winnings" when people have cashed at their local casino games/tour events (I suppose SPTs shouldn't count as 90% of the field are sky players) then see how much we can make by the end of the year (I think £1m is a good target)...
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    January the 1st, somebody who is commited should start a thread for "Live poker winnings" when people have cashed at their local casino games/tour events (I suppose SPTs shouldn't count as 90% of the field are sky players) then see how much we can make by the end of the year (I think £1m is a good target)...
    Posted by FlashFlush
    im up for this. I dont think 1m is possible unless a sky player run mega deep at WSOP
  • edited November 2011
    i think you are all missing the point, its human nature to be part of a pack. when those local hillbilly take the mick they do it as part of that local pack, team if you like.they don't like others peeing on their patch.ie taking the cash back to their cave.its good to be part of a pack or team, for the times when you take a bad beat, you will always have the support of other pack members to pick you up. far better to be a part of a understanding team then a lone wolf with a big bark and no bite.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : im up for this. I dont think 1m is possible unless a sky player run mega deep at WSOP
    Posted by The_Don90

    I reckon £1m in live tournament winnings by Sky Poker players around the UK in 2012 is an ambitious but decent target. 

    Let's do this, Sky Poker!!

    Edit: OK, very ambitious but not impossible target :)
  • edited November 2011
    Sky Poker Unite.

    I think we need to get dohhhh out of the house too to give us added chance.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    Sky Poker Unite. I think we need to get dohhhh out of the house too to give us added chance.
    Posted by The_Don90

    Only if there was a cider drinking competition and he could represent Sky.
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker" : Although it pains me to say it, I think you could be right as far as the live events are concerned. Its great fun online and it can be great fun also if you like the banter at these events. I'm proud to represent TPT but i'm seriously thinking of attending incognito, back to my "Suited & Booted" ways for the Newcastle event just to see if I can get an edge. 
    Posted by POKERTREV
    are'nt the hendon mob a "team"?

    has'nt seemed to do them any harm...........
  • edited November 2011

    I replied to the OP last night, after I finished the Live Show, & did not have time to address the somewhat acerbic & sour criticism of the Community team ethic.

    Personally, I am a little busy to get too involved in the Teams, but that's not to say I do not think they are a splendid part of our Site, & VERY important - I don't know any other Site that does this, & I'm immensely proud when I see all the Team stuff.

    Each Team seems to have their own Website, &/or Facebook Page, too. I don't get access to these EXCEPT to Team 51, who kindly allow me Members privileges, so I see what they get up to.

    It's a thing of beauty. They help each other along, have a "Railing Plan", (PRO - Professional Railing Organisation!), organise teach-ins, educate each other with tips, articles, & stuff, keep a Leaderboard of cashes, have Team-based evenings, support Sky Poker players - be they Team 51 or not - who are unwell, ill, or enduring bad times. I don't know for sure, but I would imagine ALL the Sky Poker based Teams do similar things. And if they are proud enough to wear Team gear at SPT's, good luck to them, who are anyone else to mock?

    What's not to like?

    If people want to be sour & diss that, well too bad. Each to their own, & let's have a bit of respect for others, eh?
  • edited November 2011
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: The "Sky Joker":
    I replied to the OP last night, after I finished the Live Show, & did not have time to address the somewhat acerbic & sour criticism of the Community team ethic. Personally, I am a little busy to get too involved in the Teams, but that's not to say I do not think they are a splendid part of our Site, & VERY important - I don't know any other Site that does this, & I'm immensely proud when I see all the Team stuff. Each Team seems to have their own Website, &/or Facebook Page, too. I don't get access to these EXCEPT to Team 51, who kindly allow me Members privileges, so I see what they get up to. It's a thing of beauty. They help each other along, have a "Railing Plan", (PRO - Professional Railing Organisation!), organise teach-ins, educate each other with tips, articles, & stuff, keep a Leaderboard of cashes, have Team-based evenings, support Sky Poker players - be they Team 51 or not - who are unwell, ill, or enduring bad times. I don't know for sure, but I would imagine ALL the Sky Poker based Teams do similar things. And if they are proud enough to wear Team gear at SPT's, good luck to them, who are anyone else to mock? What's not to like? If people want to be sour & diss that, well too bad. Each to their own, & let's have a bit of respect for others, eh?
    Posted by Tikay10

    I agree with all of this, but the OP was about the view of Sky poker players OUTSIDE of the Sky community.

    If people don't care what others think, then this whole thread is pointless...

  • edited November 2011
    I think part of it is simply some of the older live poker players not understanding the internet, especially forums.
  • edited November 2011
    i think charles , the only way people from outside sky will be influenced are by results and results only. what colour t shirts they have on are irrelivant. i played in the nuts national finals and won the southern region and went up to stoke for the grand finals. i wore my tkp t shirt both times (i did wash it inbetween) and i did get asked and i told them straight, "it a team i play for in sky poker" tbf 90% of the people i spoke to had nothing but good things to say about sky. the likes of julian thews article in the poker magazine helps as he is a well known and liked player getting good results. as long as the players dont abuse the sky name , i cant see anything wrong.  phil
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