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Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***)

J-HartiganJ-Hartigan
edited November 2011 in Poker Chat
Who's behind the desk in the Sky Poker studio this evening? Expect to see James, Carlo, Carlo's moustache and our special guest star...

Tony 'penguin7' Stroud

(A penguin, yesterday)

Tony's a member of Team Sky Poker. His achievements, courtesy of the official TSP thread, are as follows...

"9 main event wins on Sky including one Primo and Sky Roller. Second 4 times in the old Elite50 tournament. Runner up when invited to play Primo in studio in 2010. Qualified for Viva Las Vegas in 2010, and lasted till day 4 of main event, for $19,000. Cashed at SPT final at DTD 2009 in tenth. Finished 2nd at SPT Luton 2010. Won a pot once against Dan Brown. Won a £1000 gtd tournament on Sky on five consecutive days."

He's clearly a bit good at the pokers! I'm sure Tony would love to answer your questions about his trip to Vegas last year, being a contender for the Total Player crown and general queries about playing No Limit Hold'em and driving coaches.

We'll also be talking SMALL BALLING...

Min-raises, 1/3 pot c-bets, auto-checking the turn, etc. Is this your style of play? What are the pros and cons of pot control? Is this the best strategy to counter amateur players who rely on high variance?

Start sending your questions and contributions to skyopen@bskyb.com, or post away in this thread.

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    Who's behind the desk in the Sky Poker studio this evening? Expect to see James, Carlo, Carlo's moustache and our special guest star... Tony 'penguin7' Stroud (A penguin, yesterday) Tony's a member of Team Sky Poker. His achievements, courtesy of the official TSP thread, are as follows... "9 main event wins on Sky including one Primo and Sky Roller.   Second 4 times in the old Elite50 tournament.   Runner up when invited to play Primo in studio in 2010. Qualified for Viva Las Vegas in 2010, and lasted till day 4 of main event, for $19,000.   Cashed at SPT final at DTD 2009 in tenth.   Finished 2nd at SPT Luton 2010.   Won a pot once against Dan Brown.   Won a £1000 gtd tournament on Sky on five consecutive days." He's clearly a bit good at the pokers! I'm sure Tony would love to answer your questions about his trip to Vegas last year, being a contender for the Total Player crown and general queries about playing No Limit Hold'em and driving coaches. We'll also be talking SMALL BALLING ... Min-raises, 1/3 pot c-bets, auto-checking the turn, etc. Is this your style of play? What are the pros and cons of pot control? Is this the best strategy to counter amateur players who rely on high variance? Start sending your questions and contributions to skyopen@bskyb.com, or post away in this thread.
    Posted by J-Hartigan

    wtf was this the same tourny 5 days in a row? Or was he entering multiple 1k gtds (was there even more than 1?)

    How many runners?

    That's insane.


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    Whats the key to getting through sky fields in the 8pm main events?  I would consider myself better than most players who enter skys 8pm main event fields, yet I have only made 1 final table in 2 years, finishing 4th on that occasion.

    I must be doing something wrong, does Tony have any ideas what that might be??????

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  • Giant811Giant811
    edited November 2011
    Hi Tony, Carlo & James, if you can find a spot could you sneak in a little Omaha hi-lo talk? As Tony is really good at the game it would be nice to take the opportunity and promote it to the tv audience. Every little helps.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90
    edited November 2011
    pot control is something i was never good at. However according to Dohhhh i have a leak i think could be answered within this. When im not sure where i am OOP on the river ill often check call. Now this obviously comes with mixed results, as i allow bluffs to bet, but obviously they dont always have a bluff and actually have it. What would tony's opinion on check calling the river be?
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  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan
    edited November 2011
    Tony's alerted me to new blog he's just published.

    It's HERE.

    Have a read!
     
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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited November 2011


    hi james, carlo, tony...

    a hand from the roller... might be interesting.. well i hope so... or there again, maybe i don't

    Hand History #442784380

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  • innitinnit
    edited November 2011
    can somebody send me a tissue hand 442801725 allin jj it was called 4 q  only a q to miss  no q came but lost to  10 10 10 on flop 10 0n the river now tell me the odds  
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    In Response to Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***) : wtf was this the same tourny 5 days in a row? Or was he entering multiple 1k gtds (was there even more than 1?) How many runners? That's insane. ------------------------- Whats the key to getting through sky fields in the 8pm main events?  I would consider myself better than most players who enter skys 8pm main event fields, yet I have only made 1 final table in 2 years, finishing 4th on that occasion. I must be doing something wrong, does Tony have any ideas what that might be??????
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    The evidence here would seem that you are NOT better than most players who enter ;)
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited November 2011
    Evening guys,

    Looking forward to a great show tonight.

    Small balling is certainly a good way or reducing the luck element of the game. I know Negreanu definitely advocates the use of this strategy and it does help to dodge the mines in large fields, but then he is slightly better than me when it comes to post flop play....

    That's a mighty impressive 'CV' ya got up there Tony, not least of which a cash in the WSOP ME.
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited November 2011
    Have a great show guys, especially Penguin who is one of the players and people I respect most on the site.  

    Talking of Newcastle, I've had some great nights out up there.  I remember one night cowering under the cover of a pub umbrella in the middle of a torrential thunderstorm like a soft southerner, watching a group of lovely ladies skip by wearing not much more than a smile screaming at each other 'Hurry up, I want to tash on!'  I have no idea what this means.
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  • DaveOwlXDaveOwlX
    edited November 2011
    Hi boys,

    Just a quick one tonight. One of the hands you've just recently shown had a big blind check pre-flop I think it was with KJ suited. As is obvious you bet to gain information - would this be something you would do more often than not if it is only called round to you pre?

    I suppose it keeps the pot size low going in to the flop so isn't a bad shout if you haven't got a great hand but then you don't really know where you are. In the big blind though you are either the first or second player to bet so maybe it isn't really an optimal position to be in? I have been guilty of doing this before on tables with no big aggressors before I improved my game so would be happy for some feedback. I can't imagine it is something you can say will be right or wrong in 100% of cases mind you.

    Changing the subject with cash and bankroll management is it advisable to only have 5% of your bankroll in play at any one time per table or over the number of tables you are playing on? So if 2 tables you would use 2.5% of your BR on each?

    Great show boys, top tash Carlo!

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  • aussie09aussie09
    edited November 2011

    brilliant fold tommy



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  • JIMMYRED2JIMMYRED2
    edited November 2011
    i wanted to ask carlo if he thinks aggression is a major part of being succesfull in todays game?  it seems to me that the better players you play against now apply constant pressure making games harder than they were 10 years ago when players didnt play such a wide range of hands 
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    brilliant fold tommy
    Posted by aussie09
    Thank you very much Rob.  Got one right and found the fold button.  Knew it was there somewhere.
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited November 2011
    RE comedy analysis from players at live tourines.

    Last 9 of the GUKPT 6 Max the other day.

    Guy raises pre on the button and the BB flat calls.

    Flop comes A 7 7...BB checks...BTN bets...BB goes all in and BTN calls

    BB AQ and BTN AK

    turn 2....river Q for the 3 outer

    After the hand was over...the BB who just hit the 3 outer said 'yh I thought you had AK...I went all in tho cos on that flop I could also hit another 7 for insurance to chop'.

    Live poker is amazing.
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited November 2011


    Nice to see Tony on the show tonight.

    A quick question for him....

    Are you playing the DTD comp tomorrow night?

    (disguised plug ftw!)
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    Nice to see Tony on the show tonight. A quick question for him.... Are you playing the DTD comp tomorrow night? (disguised plug ftw!)
    Posted by MAXALLY
    Maxy my darlin , i logged into my account earlier and noticed 56p missin , any ideas ?? ;)
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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited November 2011
    yeah that decision by the Vic to go 4+3 rather than 7 handed FT was probably one of the most ridic I have ever seen in a tournie.
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  • IDONKCALLUIDONKCALLU
    edited November 2011
    sorry tommy but u should of won main event 2nite u had a 9 spades 2 all in both around 15 k in chips u got 160 k i would have to call this u would of won it pal well played tho another deep run 
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    sorry tommy but u should of won main event 2nite u had a 9 spades 2 all in both around 15 k in chips u got 160 k i would have to call this u would of won it pal well played tho another deep run 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    You're probably right.  As I said in the phone in I couldn't see the second all in being much that A9 played well against and I didn't want to give a cheap triple up.  Obviously I was wrong on this occasion.  Out of interest what would be the bottom of your calling range for the two all ins?

    And congrats to Diamond on the win again.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***) : You're probably right.  As I said in the phone in I couldn't see the second all in being much that A9 played well against and I didn't want to give a cheap triple up.  Obviously I was wrong on this occasion.  Out of interest what would be the bottom of your calling range for the two all ins? And congrats to Diamond on the win again.
    Posted by TommyD
    Vwp tommy (again) although i think ya shoulda called in this spot , for me THIS As 9s is pretty close to bottom of MOST players range.xx
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  • BrownnDogBrownnDog
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    yeah that decision by the Vic to go 4+3 rather than 7 handed FT was probably one of the most ridic I have ever seen in a tournie.
    Posted by scotty77
    lmao I assume it was 6max? You gotta love the Vic and the people who run that tour...
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  • IDONKCALLUIDONKCALLU
    edited November 2011
    hmmmmm 3 handed 2 all ins id call with k q here ace 6 and above and pair higher then 66s 
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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***) : You're probably right.  As I said in the phone in I couldn't see the second all in being much that A9 played well against and I didn't want to give a cheap triple up.  Obviously I was wrong on this occasion.  Out of interest what would be the bottom of your calling range for the two all ins? And congrats to Diamond on the win again.
    Posted by TommyD
    HH? 
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***) : HH? 
    Posted by dylan12
    Sigh.  I must really like you to dig this ammo out for you (posted HH at bottom of post).  Just got off the phone with my father who spent about ten minutes laughing at me for folding.  Now it's the night after I know I asked myself the wrong question.  Instead for asking 'Should I call?' I asked 'How does my hand play?'  Bit of a schoolboy error.  I still maintain if the situation is taken without chipstacks, that being 'a good player shoves and another good solid player reshoves,' A9s does not play well in this spot, even three handed.  However with the chipstacks it's an easy call.  In fact, because of my chip lead I can probably call with 50%-60% of hands as I'm on a freeroll and will still have a massive advantage if I lose.  If I win, I win the MTT.

    Ok Dyl, time for you to have a chuckle.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    diamond81 Small blind  1000.00 1000.00 16334.00
    TommyD Big blind  2000.00 3000.00 164453.57
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 9
    		     
    DazU All-in  11212.43 14212.43 0.00
    diamond81 All-in  16334.00 30546.43 0.00
    TommyD Fold     
    diamond81 Unmatched bet  6121.57 24424.86 6121.57
    diamond81 Show
    • K
    • J
    		   
    DazU Show
    • 8
    • K
    		   
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 10
    • Q
    		     
    Turn
       
    • Q
    		     
    River
       
    • 4
    		     
    diamond81 Win Pair of Queens 24424.86
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  • dylan12dylan12
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***):
    In Response to Re: Tonight's Sunday Roller with James, Carlo & penguin7 (***OFFICIAL SHOW THREAD***) : Sigh.  I must really like you to dig this ammo out for you (posted HH at bottom of post).  Just got off the phone with my father who spent about ten minutes laughing at me for folding.  Now it's the night after I know I asked myself the wrong question.  Instead for asking 'Should I call?' I asked 'How does my hand play?'  Bit of a schoolboy error.  I still maintain if the situation is taken without chipstacks, that being 'a good player shoves and another good solid player reshoves,' A9s does not play well in this spot, even three handed.  However with the chipstacks it's an easy call.  In fact, because of my chip lead I can probably call with 50%-60% of hands as I'm on a freeroll and will still have a massive advantage if I lose.  If I win, I win the MTT. Ok Dyl, time for you to have a chuckle.
    Posted by TommyD
    I was expecting worse tbf. 

    Im certinaly not fist pump calling this. 

    The button shove is a clear call for you but once the SB re shoves (although it is not much more to call) I can imagine you thinking your probably crushed here in this spot so I understand your fold tbf - perhaps you over thought the situation or gave them to much respect I dunno. 

    As you say, taking the chip stacks out of the equation then it is a simple fold but as played then it would have probably been a sigh call for me. 

    With the massive chip lead you had I can't see you losing it from there, how much did you win? ;) 
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited November 2011

    Comes to something when Dylan is critiquing a hand played by TommyD........
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