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  • edited December 2011
    haha! I forgot to quote the post I was replying to, so had to edit! 





  • edited December 2011
    True, MTT shows are boring )

    O look he shoves, o look he folds, o look he is bad - a look of disproval and a wavy finger and move on to talking about some nonsense )

    throw in the odd phrase from Tikay "Never limp" and a little nod from Orford and thats it :D

    Apart from that Sky do a good job, some of the guests have been educating and good entertainment

    But it's a poker channel, who cares about a stupid dressed up pub quiz )

    more poker talk less nonsense - more cash action and discussion 

    But Tikay can still talk about what he likes because he is the one carrying the whole channel with his charisma )




  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    If i understand this right we need to play 1 hand in 5 different days on NL20 or above and we're in a freeroll?
    Posted by The_Don90
    To confirm, it's a raked hand in any cash game at 10p/20p and above, on at least 5 different days before 21st December.

    Cheers :)
  • edited December 2011

    Morning Guys.

    Don't think I've ever been described as being charismatic before. Did he mean asthmatic, I wonder?

    Bear with me, & I'll try & answer a few of the questions.

    Might just wear this T-Shirt on tonight's Show, too.....



  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    Morning Guys. Don't think I've ever been described as being charismatic before. Did he mean asthmatic, I wonder? Bear with me, & I'll try & answer a few of the questions. Might just wear this T-Shirt on tonight's Show, too.....
    Posted by Tikay10

    Exactly what i was thinking myself mate.

    No matter what you will never please everyone at the same time but BY FAR "Sky Poker" try to more than any other site out there and should be applauded for that.  All anyone can ever wish for is something that is constantly trying to improve and trying to listen to the thoughts of its player base and sky have got it SPOT ON where that is concerned.

    Keep up the good work all and also a big thank you to you Tikay because imo sky couldnt have chose a better ambassador for the site.
  • edited December 2011

    I'm not really sure where to start here, to be honest, there are opinions evey which way.

    Sky Poker are not looking after the Tourney players?

    How about these?

    JackpotMini Main EventsPoker PremiershipCommunity Leagues (various)OmahartiganSurvivorTKOPoker PremiershipFreeroll FestivalTwitter FreerollsFacebook Freerolls865 Added Value TournamentSky Roller & Sunday RollerThew’s at TenUKOPS

    STT's?

    Loads of new formats, with some "interesting" new ones amongst the new "releases" due quite soon.

    Live Tourney Pokerz?

    Sky Poker Tour
    GUKPT SatsTeam Sky PokerViva Las Vegas
    More to follow, next Post......

     
  • edited December 2011
    we,re lucky santas coming at all,be happy people:)
  • edited December 2011
    wiiiiiiii i think i have one hand thats rake. i limped got to a flop and left lol :). And i even finnished 20p in profit. :D
  • edited December 2011


      Once again the moaning minnies are out in force. If anyone cannot afford 30p a night for 5 nights to qualify for a freeroll with amazing prizes and cash to boot, well ffs.
  • edited December 2011

    Cash.

    In fact, young Dohhhhh makes some excellent points. When PTP began, that's all I did - played cash Tables - but since then, most of the PTP stuff has been Tourney-based.

    Of late, we have started to change that - Rich & James are doing Cash Crusade, & although I do it under my own account, & not PTP, (because Omaha is a bit swongy to risk the companies money, imo, so I prefer to use mine) I have been on the Site every single night I was not working for the last 2 weeks multi-Tabling Omaha Cash.

    The TV Shows may change their balance soon, too - at present they only get 1 Show per week, & that may change. Correction - WILL change. We have some "interesting" faces lined up for the Analysts seat in the New Year. Watch this space, & all that. 

    "The site is becoming a cash site"?

    I think that suggests a major disconnet in the minds of some. Do you know that on most Sites, Cash Poker accounts for around 70% of the total action? SEVENTY PER CENT!, with the rest split between MTT's & STT's. And Sky Poker is pretty close to the industry norm, but the trick is to try & keep EVERY Client happy. Not easy.....

    So, whether we all like it or not, it's time we stopped this almost positive discriminaton against cash players, who constitute far & away the biggest % of play on the Site, & offer them some share of the promos & action, too. 

    I adore playing Tourneys, many of us do, but we have to keep balance, try to look after everyone. Given that the "Santas Grotto" Promo only requires 1 or more raked hands, at 10p-20p, on 5 different days over a fortnight, it's hardly a barrier to entry to anyone.

    We will continue to mix it up, offer variety, some months this, other months that, & I doubt we'll ever please everyone. Better to try & to fail, though, than fail to try.

    Keep the feedback coming, we are.....



     
  • edited December 2011
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    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer! : no because i know if i start, i won`t leave, and boom b/roll going going gone, that`s why i only very rarely play cash now.
    Posted by spornybol
    So toddle off to play above br but don't just want to play one hand as that looks poor, IMHO, and bang third of my br gone.  This isn't the most sensible promo for the fish (with diddly br) amongst us!
  • edited December 2011
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    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer! : You only have to see one 20p flop on each of 5 days, thats a quid - surely your BR stretches to that?
    Posted by loonytoons
    What happens if your BB gets raised and you don't see a flop?
  • edited December 2011

    Oh, I forgot to add.

    Look out for loads of surprise "freebie" giveaways to Santas Grotto, on the 865 Shows, the Community, on the Tables, & from Sky Santa, Sky Elf, & the PTP-ers.

    In fact - I will offer ONE FREE ENTRY to the Santa's Grotto seat for the best balanced Post on this Thread. Not sucky wucky, not necessarily "on message", just "well-balanced". Please try to remember the key - Sky Poker is trying to please, & be fair, to all it's Clients. Big & small, Cash, MTT, SNG, the lot. 

    Awkward shoes to wear, them.





     
  • edited December 2011
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    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer! : What happens if your BB gets raised and you don't see a flop?
    Posted by 67Bhoys
    what i done, i got a walk on BB, folded SB as it was raised, Raised button and won, raised next hand and won. Got a walk on BB again Guy limps me SB and im in profit anyways so i limp along BB checked. DONE. :) i see what hands i got fold em all and stand before BB hits.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer! : It's about time cash started getting more coverage!! Every single play the presenter night for the past 18 months has been tournaments &/or sit n gos. I can think of loads MTT based leagues run by presenters (lasting a month each), and only 1 cash competition, which was based on Omaha, not NLHE. There's the MTT jackpot & UKOPS. There's 2 tourny shows as opposed to 1 cash, and for a long time, they were all tournament shows.  ------------------- The cash tables are where the best players play and make their money/living. If you wanna improve as a poker player, then improving at cash is the way to do it. TK always says 865 aim to entertain &  educate . Watching people play <20 big blind stacks while the presenters have a laugh can be entertaining but it doesn't teach us much. Watch 1 hour of the Saturday night shows with Sim/Redmond and you'll learn more than watching a whole Thursday night BH show. 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    I was never questioning the lack off MTT coverage.  I agree that cash should get more coverage as this is the most popular format on sky, and with guests like Sim and Redmond players could learn ALOT, which then leads to people getting more from their money and enjoying the game more, and possibly even making money. But, oviously people get bored just watching cash after cash hand,  which is why the tournaments shows are very good, esepically with guests like Luke Schwartz! some people prefer to watch knowing there will be an eventual winner.
    My point was that alot of STT players are leaving/left (playing elsewhere) , and its hard to get a few £22 + games going now. It seems very little is done to promote STT games,  even though like i said in my previous post, Tv's most watched poker show Late night poker is afterall a STT format.  Every1 loves watching that right ?

    To the how can i put it kindly, ... misunderstood, people who think i'm moaning about spending a few quid on getting into the freeroll, you have completely missed the point.   My point is that all the offers and promotions lately seem to be cash cash cash.  Obviously there is tourneament shows and the tournament jackpot etc..    i just felt a little more could be done to balance it out, and promote STT's , and get people involved in all aspects of poker.
    Don't get me wrong, i enjoy playing the odd cash session myself.   Just would be a shame if i had to open accounts elsewhere to play STTs.
  • edited December 2011
    Observation. The small stakes players like myself might want to be careful over table selection, because a lot of these players aren't going to just limp to your big blind as might happen at micro stakes. You might have to play a bit.

    I got raised out on the first orbit, got a new player posting a blind mid orbit on my BB second time round so got my limped pot, then picked up KK in the cut-off playing my 'free' hands from the rest of the orbit and took down the blinds. Day one done for 30p, happy with that.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer! : I was never questioning the lack off MTT coverage.  I agree that cash should get more coverage as this is the most popular format on sky, and with guests like Sim and Redmond players could learn ALOT, which then leads to people getting more from their money and enjoying the game more, and possibly even making money. But, oviously people get bored just watching cash after cash hand,  which is why the tournaments shows are very good, esepically with guests like Luke Schwartz! some people prefer to watch knowing there will be an eventual winner. My point was that alot of STT players are leaving/left (playing elsewhere) , and its hard to get a few £22 + games going now. It seems very little is done to promote STT games,  even though like i said in my previous post, Tv's most watched poker show Late night poker is afterall a STT format.  Every1 loves watching that right ? To the how can i put it kindly, ... misunderstood, people who think i'm moaning about spending a few quid on getting into the freeroll, you have completely missed the point.   My point is that all the offers and promotions lately seem to be cash cash cash.  Obviously there is tourneament shows and the tournament jackpot etc..    i just felt a little more could be done to balance it out, and promote STT's , and get people involved in all aspects of poker. Don't get me wrong, i enjoy playing the odd cash session myself.   Just would be a shame if i had to open accounts elsewhere to play STTs.
    Posted by 1267

    3 fair points. But you could have made these points without any criticism of the recent emphasis on cash poker.......

    More can be done to promote sng's, but alongside cash based promotions, not instead of. 

    What would you suggest they do????



  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer! : 3 fair points. But you could have made these points without any criticism of the recent emphasis on cash poker....... More can be done to promote sng's, but alongside cash based promotions, not instead of.  What would you suggest they do????
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    yes, alongside the cash promotions of course. 

    Not sure what i'd do to be honest . People get paid to come up with things like this dont they ?  lol
    A few other players were saying Sky did double points for a week or weekend on STT's,  this perhaps would increase activity. Maybe an STT show.  

    Tikay seemed to "laugh off" my sky is becoming a cash site remark,  but lets say the average site is 70 percent cash, 15 percent stt, 15 percent MTT  (not sure on the stt , mtt ratio).
    Sky is probably more like 85 perent cash,  10 percent MTT, 5 percent STT. 

    Going off topic i know, but lets say 70 percent of premiership sides, pass the ball out,   the over 30 percent split between dribbling it out, and long balls.
    Arsenal pass it out 85 percent of the time,    Arsenal are a passing side right ?
  • edited December 2011

    1267 - thank you. All noted, & put that way, it reads better!

    Truth is, it's a bit like this......





    Which then became this......




    And is fast approaching this......





    Not dropped a plate yet though. Have faith, believe......
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer! : yes, alongside the cash promotions of course.  Not sure what i'd do to be honest . People get paid to come up with things like this dont they ?  lol A few other players were saying Sky did double points for a week or weekend on STT's,  this perhaps would increase activity. Maybe an STT show.   Tikay seemed to "laugh off" my sky is becoming a cash site remark,  but lets say the average site is 70 percent cash, 15 percent stt, 15 percent MTT  (not sure on the stt , mtt ratio). Sky is probably more like 85 perent cash,  10 percent MTT, 5 percent STT.  Going off topic i know, but lets say 70 percent of premiership sides, pass the ball out,   the over 30 percent split between dribbling it out, and long balls. Arsenal pass it out 85 percent of the time,    Arsenal are a passing side right ?
    Posted by 1267
    Hold up Sir - I never "laughed it off", I tried to be polite, honest, inclusive, & just state facts openly & honestly. I think you need to read ALL of my Post, & indeed Posts, on this thread. I don't mock, or "laugh off" Clients.

    Think a plate just fell off, bleurgh.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    Morning Guys. Don't think I've ever been described as being charismatic before. Did he mean asthmatic, I wonder? Bear with me, & I'll try & answer a few of the questions. Might just wear this T-Shirt on tonight's Show, too.....
    Posted by Tikay10
    lol

    I only care about my entertainment, why would I care about everyone else - that's your job )
  • edited December 2011
    Thanks for spending the time to reply, and good luck with tonights show.
  • edited December 2011
    Firstly: Tikay where can i get that T-shirt ;)

    I think this is a great promotion it doesn't take much to get in 1 raked hand at 20nl for 5 straight days, people that are saying but i'd end up staying on longer than my one raked hand and losing x amount of my bankroll that is a personal problem.

    1)it does not say you have to sit at 20nl with a full stack and get your one raked hand for 5 days so those that are saying but im afraid i will do my bankroll as i think it is poor form to play 1 hand sit with what your bankroll is comfortable with even if its only a fiver you are only there to get your one raked hand not to make a living, there are going to be a million and one people doing exactly the same

    2) for the prizes that are up for grabs to win in a freeroll everyone should just be getting on with it sitting play the one hand that sees a flop and go knowing by monday you will be eligible for the freeroll and you never have to play another cash hand ever if you do not want to and you now have a chance to win a 3d tv + £200 pretty sure the £200 cash will be a 100x more than what you will lose in these 5 days while qualifying so if anything that is an incentive (£200 will be some peoples whole bankrolls and its FREE MONEY)

    finally agree with Dohhh and i am not a cash player... well i play a little of everything but every promotion is usually for MTT players ie the jackpot etc etc, but as soon as a different promo comes in which is probably the simplest of promotions ever people forget this and start asking what about people who specifically play mtts come on anyone can play 20nl just to see 1 flop and get up and go it isn't going to be rocket science.

     why should another promo be introduced with the same sort of thing just cause the cash guys get one that isn't right MTT players have a lot of promo's based around them and for one christmas promo not be based around mtts and people whinging about it seems pretty stupid to me.

    anyways thats my opinion flame away
  • edited December 2011


    Yet again, the old cash v tournament discussion raises its ugly head again.

    Any promotion will not, and can not, satisfy everyone, whether it be a poker promotion or something in the 'real world'.

    Promotional 'tournaments' will always attract the cash players to take a break from the grinding and join in. The old adage that 'cash players are the best poker players' does not necessarily equate to ALL tournaments they enter. I am obv biased towards the tournament player but do respect the cash grinding players. However, their disrespect towards the tournament players sometimes leaves alot to be desired. 

    As for the discussion of cash bringing the most profit in for the site, that seriously is not a good thing to say as it alienates all the MTT/STT grinders who should be made to feel as equally as possible as ALL clients on a poker website.

    Other sites are widely available which offer a lot more than Sky Poker currently offer in regards to choice of Tournaments/STT's  24/7. However, not many offer the promotions Sky do or a an 'open' forum for all.

    Final thought

    Why is there always a 'tournament' to decide the best 'cash' players?


  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    Firstly: Tikay where can i get that T-shirt ;) I think this is a great promotion it doesn't take much to get in 1 raked hand at 20nl for 5 straight days, people that are saying but i'd end up staying on longer than my one raked hand and losing x amount of my bankroll that is a personal problem. 1)it does not say you have to sit at 20nl with a full stack and get your one raked hand for 5 days so those that are saying but im afraid i will do my bankroll as i think it is poor form to play 1 hand sit with what your bankroll is comfortable with even if its only a fiver you are only there to get your one raked hand not to make a living, there are going to be a million and one people doing exactly the same 2) for the prizes that are up for grabs to win in a freeroll everyone should just be getting on with it sitting play the one hand that sees a flop and go knowing by monday you will be eligible for the freeroll and you never have to play another cash hand ever if you do not want to and you now have a chance to win a 3d tv + £200 pretty sure the £200 cash will be a 100x more than what you will lose in these 5 days while qualifying so if anything that is an incentive (£200 will be some peoples whole bankrolls and its FREE MONEY ) finally agree with Dohhh and i am not a cash player... well i play a little of everything but every promotion is usually for MTT players ie the jackpot etc etc, but as soon as a different promo comes in which is probably the simplest of promotions ever people forget this and start asking what about people who specifically play mtts come on anyone can play 20nl just to see 1 flop and get up and go it isn't going to be rocket science.  why should another promo be introduced with the same sort of thing just cause the cash guys get one that isn't right MTT players have a lot of promo's based around them and for one christmas promo not be based around mtts and people whinging about it seems pretty stupid to me. anyways thats my opinion flame away
    Posted by delaney09
    No1s forgot the jackpot , its even mentioned in previous posts. 
    Nor do i see any MTT players whinging ?
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:
    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer! : No1s forgot the jackpot , its even mentioned in previous posts.  Nor do i see any MTT players whinging ?
    Posted by 1267
    both things you have said while quoting my post have not even been said so not really sure what you are trying to say

    1) i didn't mention anywhere that the jackpot had been forgotten i wrote

    'every promotion is usually for MTT players ie the jackpot etc etc, but as soon as a different promo comes in which is probably the simplest of promotions ever people forget'

    that doesn't state at all that people specifically forget about the jackpot im clearly saying in general people forget about all the promotions that are done for MTT players not just one specific promotion

    2) nor did i say mtt players were whinging if i said MTT players were whinging that would then include myself as i play more MTTs than i do cash?????

    please re-read rather than replying to my post with things i haven't even said

    thanks

  • edited December 2011
    This is not a cash table promotion, this is not an mtt promotion, this is not an stt promotion, it is a christmas promotion.
    Sky have run this santas sack promotion for the last 3 years i believe. In all those years the qualifying criteria was one of three ways.
     1) to knock santa rudolph or some other tiny christmas character (i forget her name) out of the main event.
     2) To bust one of the three players previously listed out of a cash table
     3) To win a spot prize in one of many december competitions run.

    I have been lucky enough to have been in all the previous promotion finals, but it was quite difficult or lucky to qualify, 1st you had to get on the santas table, then bust him out when he had £20 br on a 10p/20p cash table! yes you heard that right, the same tables that now all you need to do is see 5 flops! This is so much easier to enter now, and remember, the qualifying may be cash, but the santa grotto final is MTT!
    I would like to say that im normally the first to nitpick but this is a fun promotion, laid on by sky and they choose the qualifying criteria, and everyone should be thankful how it is, because they could have made it a darn sight harder!
    Finally id just like to add that people really need to get things into perspective, it is what it is, its meant to be fun, sky are under no obligation to run this in any particular way, indeed if at all. If you dont want to qualify this way, why not try and win one of the other fun competitions that im sure will be on offer. Today i played my first raked hand of the qualifying period and won 93p, so thats 1 down 4 to go. - happy christmas everone!
  • edited December 2011

    In Response to Re: Santas Grotto Offer!:

    Firstly: Tikay where can i get that T-shirt ;) I think this is a great promotion it doesn't take much to get in 1 raked hand at 20nl for 5 straight days, people that are saying but i'd end up staying on longer than my one raked hand and losing x amount of my bankroll that is a personal problem. 1)it does not say you have to sit at 20nl with a full stack and get your one raked hand for 5 days so those that are saying but im afraid i will do my bankroll as i think it is poor form to play 1 hand sit with what your bankroll is comfortable with even if its only a fiver you are only there to get your one raked hand not to make a living, there are going to be a million and one people doing exactly the same 2) for the prizes that are up for grabs to win in a freeroll everyone should just be getting on with it sitting play the one hand that sees a flop and go knowing by monday you will be eligible for the freeroll and you never have to play another cash hand ever if you do not want to and you now have a chance to win a 3d tv + £200 pretty sure the £200 cash will be a 100x more than what you will lose in these 5 days while qualifying so if anything that is an incentive (£200 will be some peoples whole bankrolls and its FREE MONEY ) finally agree with Dohhh and i am not a cash player... well i play a little of everything but every promotion is usually for MTT players ie the jackpot etc etc, but as soon as a different promo comes in which is probably the simplest of promotions ever people forget this and start asking what about people who specifically play mtts come on anyone can play 20nl just to see 1 flop and get up and go it isn't going to be rocket science.  why should another promo be introduced with the same sort of thing just cause the cash guys get one that isn't right MTT players have a lot of promo's based around them and for one christmas promo not be based around mtts and people whinging about it seems pretty stupid to me. anyways thats my opinion flame away
    Posted by delaney09
    Ok.  Noones whinging about the promo not being based around MTTs ?


    Plus what evidence is there to suggest people forget about the MTT promos then ?   Because no1 has forgot about the Jackpot promo.

    Plus no1 ever questioned that getting in the freeroll was rocket science, imo.

    Thanks

  • edited December 2011
    I'm mainly a cash game player and think that the balance that cash gets on the TV show is fair.

    Cash is more skilled that the other forms, and tournies/STTs are where people tend to begin their poker journey so I think that should forum the bulk of the TV coverage.  Even tho cash is by far the biggest money maker for the site, and no one can even begin to argue with that (no doubt they will tho) it is not the way that people generally get into the game.  And new blood is what ALL online poker rooms strive for,

    Maybe Sky could look at doing some pre-records to get a boost to the STTs/DYMs?

    Peronsally with regards to this promo I think this system is probably fairer than the ones that Sky used before as a lot of the time it was basically down to luck if you were on the forum/tables at the right time.
  • edited December 2011


      I really don't see what all the fuss is about, seeing 5 flops in 5 days sounds like a BARGAIN to me, also it's only the 8th dec. & i'm sure there will be more promotions that will suit everyone between now & xmas
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