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New Cash For Points

sikassikas
edited December 2011 in Poker Chat
Looks Mint!

wd sky!

keep them changes coming!
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  • phil12ukphil12uk
    edited December 2011
    Just seen this. Finally every poker point can be accounted for!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers sky :)
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  • chris1963chris1963
    edited December 2011
    This is fine, but yet again small stakes ie lower points earners completely blanked, (as they are in the happy hour cash promotion)
    Look after the people with bigger bank rolls forget the guys who love to play but cannot afford the bigger buy ins................

    Cheers, Happy new year.
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  • lMARKllMARKl
    edited December 2011
    Yeah now have to earn 2500 points for £30 rather than 2000, N1...


    Looks good if you earn 10k+ a month tho.
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  • salad24salad24
    edited December 2011
    Yeah not amazing for me as i only ever just scrap over 1000 points for £15 quid, now it's only worth a tenner!
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ
    edited December 2011
    I'll be worse off as a result of these changes, it looks like it's bad news for MTT players like myself who don't earn many points.

    In December I've earned 550 points . That's worth £5.00 under the old scheme, with the new method that'll drop to £4.40, a reduction of 12%.

    In November I just managed to reach 1,000 and earned £15.00 All that will earn me in future is £10.00, a reduction of 33%.
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  • salad24salad24
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    I'll be worse off as a result of these changes, it looks like it's bad news for MTT players like myself who don't earn many points. In December I've earned 550 points . That's worth £5.00 under the old scheme, with the new method that'll drop to £4.40, a reduction of 12%. In November I just managed to reach 1,000 and earned £15.00 All that will earn me in future is £10.00, a reduction of 33%.
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    Yup misleading Original Post imo, got my hopes up!
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  • pilgrim07pilgrim07
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    This is fine, but yet again small stakes ie lower points earners completely blanked, (as they are in the happy hour cash promotion) Look after the people with bigger bank rolls forget the guys who love to play but cannot afford the bigger buy ins................ Cheers, Happy new year.
    Posted by chris1963
       

        Yup, big +1
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  • GLifUloseGLifUlose
    edited December 2011
    I hope you guys are f'ing joking.

    I will explain in another thread...
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  • salad24salad24
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    I hope you guys are joking. I will explain in another thread...
    Posted by GLifUlose
    Im not complaining as i do know this will benifit a lot of people who earn just under the next the level of C4P, this one's just not for me!
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  • bigal36903bigal36903
    edited December 2011
    sorry, but obviously u have not looked properly. i am about to make my first priority club. i will in futrue get less for the same ammount..  before i wud get 25% extra for 10k paying 325 now 280. how is this better
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  • EvilPinguEvilPingu
    edited December 2011
    I don't think it's too bad, tbh. Has it's advantages and disadvantages. Anyone getting between 7k and 10k points will get more, I think priority club will get more too, anyone who doesn't quite get enough points for the next tier will get more, but you get less if you only just scrape enough points on the final day of the month for the next tier. I guess people are just so used to scraping enough points on the last day of the month that you all automatically see it as "I'm losing this much".

    My C4P:
    Oct 11 - 235 C4P, only just signed up
    Nov 11 - 504 C4P, old system gave £5, new system would give me £4.03
    Dec 11 - 938 C4P so far, old system gave £5, new system would give me £7.50 if I didn't get another point for the rest of the month.

    I guess it gives people more incentive to keep playing on the last day of the month if they've reached one tier, but have no chance of reaching the next one, because now there's a cash difference between having 3,400 points and 3,600 points, for instance.

    Even though it'll probably cost me a few quid, it's probably not a bad move by sky, and can see the benefits for other people. We'll see how it goes, but my glass is half full.
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  • GLifUloseGLifUlose
    edited December 2011
    https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a57795ac2-1793-4377-b4cf-e124b0f555f4Forum%3adf77f82c-151f-4bea-aae1-fb423dcae1faDiscussion%3aa986e11d-b608-49fd-ad7c-35e9207aa700&plckCurrentPage=0

    very much half-empty
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  • sikassikas
    edited December 2011
    right so where u used to get £15 for 1000, u STILL would get £15 for 1999 points, in the new system for 1999 points you would get 19.99


    old system 5k points = £100
                5999  points = £100     ....new system 5999 points = £107.98

    how many times have u just fallen short of the 'old' C4P milestones then just 'lose' the excess points, with the new system every point has a value
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  • rancidrancid
    edited December 2011
    seems more robs peter to pay paul if you ask me

    peter being the poorer of the brothers

    eg. 

    old system

    1000 = £15

    now

    1500 = £15

    emmm maybe it just levels off inbetween so the jumps ain't so big


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  • DaveOwlXDaveOwlX
    edited December 2011
    Better!
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  • acebarry10acebarry10
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    I hope you guys are joking. I will explain in another thread...
    Posted by GLifUlose
    Hi

    It may be a good idea to edit you post as trying to get around the profaity filter does break the forum rules :)

    I am sure if a mod sees it they will change it if you don't :), maybe you too salad :)
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  • salad24salad24
    edited December 2011
    Cheers barry, i didn't even see it there.
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  • acebarry10acebarry10
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    Cheers barry, i didn't even see it there.
    Posted by salad24
    My pleasure :)
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ
    edited December 2011
    Well, for a low stakes MTT specialist like myself C4P earnings are insignificant, nearly all profit is made at the tables. I might be slightly worse off some months as a result of the changes, but it's such a small sum it'll make no noticable difference to my bottom line.

    At month end I'll have no longer have the incentive to try and reach the next tier, so I may play a less than I have before when I've been chasing points for that reason.

    The players who may feel they're losing out the most are those in the 250-499 point bracket, they go from a freeroll ticket to nothing.
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    right so where u used to get £15 for 1000, u STILL would get £15 for 1999 points, in the new system for 1999 points you would get 19.99 old system 5k points = £100             5999  points = £100     ....new system 5999 points = £107.98 how many times have u just fallen short of the 'old' C4P milestones then just 'lose' the excess points, with the new system every point has a value
    Posted by sikas
    Funny how blinded people are

    5000 points - old system - £100, new system - £90
    5999 points - old system - £100, new system - £107.98

    It probably works out the same long term. (maybe slightly worse) 
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  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker
    edited December 2011

    We posted this on another thread but thought it was useful for here too:

    Thanks for the feedback guys.

    Our main aim in making the changes to cash for points was to make it fairer (you now get rewarded for each of the qualifying points) and clearer. We hope you agree this has been done.

    We definitely are not trying to confuse or deceive anyone here - far from it. It is clear that there are certain examples where people will earn slightly more and others slightly less.

    Starting at the bottom for the 500 - 999 tier, for example, where people previously got £5 no matter where you fell on this scale. Now, if we break it down like this, you can see some interesting comparisons:

    500 points = £4.00 (worse)
    550 points = £4.40 (worse)
    600 points = £4.80 (worse)
    650 points = £5.20 (better)
    700 points = £5.60 (better)
    750 points = £6.00 (better)
    800 points = £6.40 (better)
    850 points = £6.80 (better)
    900 points = £7.20 (better)
    950 points = £7.60 (better)

    In this case, which is admittedly just one range of examples, 7 out of the 10 are more generous and someone who gets 950 points now gets more than someone earning 500 points, which we think is fairer. We have been given lots of feedback in the past to say this too.

    There is still an incentive for people to 'move-up' the tiers as it gets more and more rewarding (more pence per point), including Priority offers too.

    Do please also remember that we will have other offers ongoing help add to peoples rewards - the recent Happy Hours being a good example. There will be more things like this coming, giving you the chance to earn extra points.

    We also have exciting plans for other exciting promotions and giveaways too!

    Thank you for everyone for taking the time to give us feedback, we appreciate it.

    Thanks
    Sky Poker
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  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker
    edited December 2011

    If anybody would like to see the details of how you can get extra bonus points to help boost you Cash for Points - please see our Happy Hour promotion:

    https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby/poker-promotions/happy-hour
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  • nmipeisnmipeis
    edited December 2011
    will we be keeping any happy hours through the new year?

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  • scotty77scotty77
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    will we be keeping any happy hours through the new year?
    Posted by nmipeis
    +1 plz do
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  • pod1pod1
    edited December 2011
    +2

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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited December 2011


    Just spoke to Sky Adam on the Priority Line and he admitted that "budget constraints" have lowered the c4p.

    As I don't play cash and am not very good, I rely on c4p as a large part of my winnings so this is def a bit of a blow for me.

    My goal for 2012 is to reach £2k for c4p - Under the old system I would have had to make 36000 points and would have got £2187.50 for that.

    Under the new system, I only have to make 35715 points to make £2k - however:

    I will only get £2016 for making the extra 685 points (upto 36k), making £171.50 less than under the old system.

    Ah well - c'est la vie I guess, back to the grind!
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    Just spoke to Sky Adam on the Priority Line and he admitted that "budget constraints" have lowered the c4p. As I don't play cash and am not very good, I rely on c4p as a large part of my winnings so this is def a bit of a blow for me. My goal for 2012 is to reach £2k for c4p - Under the old system I would have had to make 36000 points and would have got £2187.50 for that. Under the new system, I only have to make 35715 points to make £2k - however: I will only get £2016 for making the extra 685 points (upto 36k), making £171.50 less than under the old system. Ah well - c'est la vie I guess, back to the grind!
    Posted by JingleMa
    Hi Jinglema,

    I'm not sure who Sky Adam on the priority line is, (obviously not me!) but I'm the product manager of Sky Poker, you have been completely misinformed here so i need to set this straight right now. 

    This has absolutely nothing to do with 'budget constraints' i have no idea why that comment was made its extremely misleading and inappropriate. 

    The only reasons why we have decided to make this change have been clearly stated previously, but in summary to reiterate:

    Our main aim in making the changes to cash for points was to make it fairer (you now get rewarded for each of the qualifying points) and clearer.

    We definitely are not trying to confuse or deceive anyone here - far from it. It is clear that there are certain examples where people will earn slightly more and others slightly less.

    Feel free to continue to discuss between yourselves

    Happy New Year and Best Wishes to all

    Adam

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  • JingleMaJingleMa
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points:
    In Response to Re: New Cash For Points : Hi Jinglema, I'm not sure who Sky Adam on the priority line is, (obviously not me!) but I'm the product manager of Sky Poker, you have been completely misinformed here so i need to set this straight right now.  This has absolutely nothing to do with 'budget constraints' i have no idea why that comment was made its extremely misleading and inappropriate.  The only reasons why we have decided to make this change have been clearly stated previously, but in summary to reiterate: Our main aim in making the changes to cash for points was to make it fairer (you now get rewarded for each of the qualifying points) and clearer. We definitely are  not  trying to confuse or deceive anyone here - far from it. It is clear that there are certain examples where people will earn slightly more and others slightly less. Feel free to continue to discuss between yourselves Happy New Year and Best Wishes to all Adam
    Posted by Sky_Adam

    Thank you for the reply other Sky Adam lol, and best wishes to you too.

    However, I only play STT's (and the occasional MTT) and the rewards for the new system are definitely less than the old one. Due to connection probs and some other commitments, I will only make 10k points this month - this would get me a bonus of £310 on the new higher priority rate. Under the old system still used for this month, I will get £343.75, £33.75 more.

    Every level under the old system seems to be paying less in the new scheme and now if you drop below 10k points for any month, you will also drop a priority level I understand, therefore earning even less.

    I appreciate you are not decieving anyone as you have clearly layed out the new plan in the promo section and understand the advantages for having every point worth X pence - but clearly we are receiving less than under the old system.

    Priyesh (AKA Jingle / PJ).

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  • skicowboysskicowboys
    edited December 2011
    I'm an MTT player and anyway you dress this up, i am worse off. Its ok sky saying about happy hours, but these are cash only, this is no biggie for me, but NEW in this case doesn't mean better.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67
    edited December 2011
    Well after careful consideration and basic maths i will defo lose out so imo and prob on behalf of lots who are the same as me the new c4p system is a load of old horsesh1t.

    PS bazza may wanna say to edit my post as it breaks the profanity filter

    But tbh i dont really give a .............. ;)
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