Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair?

gb2408

Hi All,

Fairly new to Sky Poker but have been playing a few Sit & Go DYM's in between the decent tournaments.

One thing I have noticed that is really frustrating, is that quite a lot of people enter and then just sit on "Away" in the hope that other people wipe each other out and they end up in prize money without playing a hand.

Some will say they are making easy money, but we're on here to play poker not just to make money surely?

Gaz

FlashFlush

If you can't beat some1 that isn't at the table you should give up now

scouse_red

to be honest they pay the same entry fee as everyone else, so surely it's up to them how they play it, 

Twenny_P

It's a double edged sword in my eyes..

Sometimes you can just chip away at their stack and make easy chips, and if down to the bubble, if all other players see the game plan, you all just blind the Away player out, making a few chips in turn..

Can be a bit more frustrating when more than 2 are away.. I had 4 in one game and it was just a joke!!

Sometimes it can be down to connection issues, which would be unfair to punish them and disqualify them..
I've had this many times, losing connection and taking ages to re log in etc.. (over 10 minutes sometimes..)

I sometimes have to play away if the game has started and i'm in the middle of doing something else and need to finish that before continuing (toilet break/making a cuppa/annoying phone call/etc..)
But I always try to minimise these occasions.

Unfortunately, poker IS a way to make money, and not just a recreactional game, especially online..
So you get the grinders who player as many games as possible and use it to make a tax free living.
These will sometimes play the percentage game and for every one they lose whilst being away, they are likely to also win just as many. So they are not losing out. (it's a gamble)

If you see they are regular playing away, maybe keep a not that if you find them registered for the game before it starts, do not play in that game and just find another table..

I don't think it'll ever be punished or stopped as the legitimate reasons outway the negitives.

EvilPingu

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If you can't beat some1 that isn't at the table you should give up now
Posted by FlashFlush

Well said.

I don't mind people being away in STT's, as everyone at the table is in the same boat. In MTT's, it's a different kettle of fish, as some people have 0 away players at their table and others may have several, defeats the point of even bothering to balance tables in the first place.

It annoys me more when people set themselves as away, pick up a hand and stop being away. I know that sometimes people will geniunely make a cup of coffee, miss the first couple of hands, come back and find aces. But for the most part, people who sit away when they're actually at the computer and just waiting for a hand...Grr.

gb2408

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Hi All, Fairly new to Sky Poker but have been playing a few Sit & Go DYM's in between the decent tournaments. One thing I have noticed that is really frustrating, is that quite a lot of people enter and then just sit on "Away" in the hope that other people wipe each other out and they end up in prize money without playing a hand. Some will say they are making easy money, but we're on here to play poker not just to make money surely? Gaz
Posted by gb2408

Thanks for the constructive response.  I've been doing pretty well for myself thanks.

These Sit & Go's are fast paced all or nothings most of the time with people going all in every time you raise so the ones folding every hand tend to last longer.

kb245

the more away players the better! playing against away players is easy( in sng / dym) learn the game.u will like them then.

YOUNG_GUN

This again ........

+1 to what flash said

also 95% of sit outs are not deliberate eg.connection issues or other stuff. Sit outs dont gain anything and i imagine if you sat out in 100 games you would only cash in like 10 max so pointless

Red_King

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In Response to Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair? : Thanks for the constructive response.  I've been doing pretty well for myself thanks. These Sit & Go's are fast paced all or nothings most of the time with people going all in every time you raise so the ones folding every hand tend to last longer.
Posted by gb2408

Most AWAYs at the £2 & below DYM levels are probably grinding multi-tables,
this strategy can work in their favour at these levels, as raises are not respected,
and most of the time the AWAYs can cash with little or no play at all.
If their plan is not working, they always come back and shove with a good hand.

If your bankroll can cover it, try the £3 or £5 DYM's, raises get more respect at these levels.

grantorino

what next, people folding hands is unfair?

gb2408

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This again ........ +1 to what flash said also 95% of sit outs are not deliberate eg.connection issues or other stuff. Sit outs dont gain anything and i imagine if you sat out in 100 games you would only cash in like 10 max so pointless
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

Thanks, I'll have a look at those.

I have only been playing these Sit & Go's a few days - It just seems there are tons that sit away and it's frustrating.  I can stand 1 or even 2.  But when there are 3 or 4 it makes the game so drawn out and boring.

gb2408

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what next, people folding hands is unfair?
Posted by grantorino

That's a bit ridiculous really isn't it?  Leave the petty responses alone please.

Red_King

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In Response to Re: Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair? : Thanks, I'll have a look at those. I have only been playing these Sit & Go's a few days - It just seems there are tons that sit away and it's frustrating.  I can stand 1 or even 2.  But when there are 3 or 4 it makes the game so drawn out and boring.
Posted by gb2408

Frustration is the key to the AWAYs getting YOUR cash for minimum effort.
You must find the patience to wait/blind out the AWAYs.
If all players recognise this, then it's easy cash for them, not the AWAYs.

Have a read of "The ABC of DYMs" by John Connor, in the BLOGS section.

kb245

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In Response to Re: Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair? : That's a bit ridiculous really isn't it?  Leave the petty responses alone please.
Posted by gb2408

what he is trying to tell u  is .they have paid their money they can do what they want. i remember tikay telling someone u are quite entitled to sit away and just play the cards that you want. you do not have to play every single hand dealt.

gb2408

Thanks for the responses.  I can see both arguments and you're right in saying people are fully entitled to sit and play very few hands.  My "beef" was with the people that don't intend on even looking at the table once registered nevermind play a hand.

Hopefully see a few of you in one of the big tournaments.  I was in the UKOPS Main Event the other night, lasted over 250 hands but only dealt 4 or 5 that were playable and beat on 3 of those so the law of averages says my luck will return (albeit eventually).

Have a good day.

SHANXTA

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It's a double edged sword in my eyes.. Sometimes you can just chip away at their stack and make easy chips, and if down to the bubble, if all other players see the game plan, you all just blind the Away player out, making a few chips in turn.. Can be a bit more frustrating when more than 2 are away.. I had 4 in one game and it was just a joke!! Sometimes it can be down to connection issues, which would be unfair to punish them and disqualify them.. I've had this many times, losing connection and taking ages to re log in etc.. (over 10 minutes sometimes..) I sometimes have to play away if the game has started and i'm in the middle of doing something else and need to finish that before continuing (toilet break/making a cuppa/annoying phone call/etc..) But I always try to minimise these occasions. Unfortunately, poker  IS a way to make money, and not just a recreactional game, especially online.. So you get the grinders who player as many games as possible and use it to make a tax free living. These will sometimes play the percentage game and for every one they lose whilst being away, they are likely to also win just as many. So they are not losing out. (it's a gamble) If you see they are regular playing away, maybe keep a not that if you find them registered for the game before it starts, do not play in that game and just find another table.. I don't think it'll ever be punished or stopped as the legitimate reasons outway the negitives.
Posted by Twenny_P

Give me 4 away players at my table anytime

Not exactly sure what all this means but i'm pretty certain that won't find any winning Sit n Go reg that beleives it's a winning strategy for them to sit out

Dudeskin8

I wish more players would sit out HU

devonfish5

lol

gives you half a chance carl

lol

bugaloo

pathetic thread

is it fair?

for you yes it is of course 

jesus

DOHHHHHHH

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In Response to Re: Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair? : That's a bit ridiculous really isn't it?  Leave the petty responses alone please.
Posted by gb2408

Whats the difference between sitting "away" & folding every hand?

Why is 1 ok but 1 isn't?

GaryQQQ

Leave them in, but their hands shouldn't be allowed to win.

EvilPingu

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Leave them in, but their hands shouldn't be allowed to win.
Posted by GaryQQQ

This, would rather they just folded even when they could check. Nothing tilts me more than when someone is against an away player, they check it down and the away player wins the pot. 

gb2408

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pathetic thread is it fair? for you yes it is of course  jesus
Posted by bugaloo

Grow up, moron.

debdobs_67

gb mate in a sit n go believe me its soooooooooooo much better to have away players , end of and thats a fact

gb2408

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In Response to Re: Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair? : Whats the difference between sitting "away" & folding every hand? Why is 1 ok but 1 isn't?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I fear you have missed my point entirely.

To give you a comparison; On Betfair, on all markets you get people staking thousands on odds of 1.01 regardless of the event, race, whatever.  They do so because more often than not, if a market leader reaches odds of 1.01 (in fact almost always) their bet wins.  They have no interest at all in the sport/event they are betting in.

My argument in this case is that, sure, people can choose to do what they will with their money..... But personally I am here to enjoy the game of poker (money doesn't really bother me, only the thrill of winning at a game I enjoy) and people sat away (by choice) just bore me and thus makes the game less enjoyable.

I feel I've been reasonable in putting my point across so I'd appreciate if the petty, crass responses were kept to yourselves.  Open forum?  Yes.  Excuse to be rude?  No.

unknown_username

In Response to Re: Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair?:

In Response to Re: Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair? : I fear you have missed my point entirely. To give you a comparison; On Betfair, on all markets you get people staking thousands on odds of 1.01 regardless of the event, race, whatever.  They do so because more often than not, if a market leader reaches odds of 1.01 (in fact almost always) their bet wins.  They have no interest at all in the sport/event they are betting in. My argument in this case is that, sure, people can choose to do what they will with their money..... But personally I am here to enjoy the game of poker (money doesn't really bother me, only the thrill of winning at a game I enjoy) and people sat away (by choice) just bore me and thus makes the game less enjoyable. I feel I've been reasonable in putting my point across so I'd appreciate if the petty, crass responses were kept to yourselves.  Open forum?  Yes.  Excuse to be rude?  No.
Posted by gb2408

dont think hes being rude m8 he just asked a question,jeez,people are so precious

1267

In Response to Re: Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair?:

In Response to Re: Sit & Go's - People sat on "Away" fair? : I fear you have missed my point entirely. To give you a comparison; On Betfair, on all markets you get people staking thousands on odds of 1.01 regardless of the event, race, whatever.  They do so because more often than not, if a market leader reaches odds of 1.01 (in fact almost always) their bet wins.  They have no interest at all in the sport/event they are betting in. My argument in this case is that, sure, people can choose to do what they will with their money..... But personally I am here to enjoy the game of poker (money doesn't really bother me, only the thrill of winning at a game I enjoy) and people sat away (by choice) just bore me and thus makes the game less enjoyable. I feel I've been reasonable in putting my point across so I'd appreciate if the petty, crass responses were kept to yourselves.  Open forum?  Yes.  Excuse to be rude?  No.
Posted by gb2408

If you read the above post you called somebody a moron, this is rude right ?

As for the "it bores me" ,  somebody could sit and fold every hand and take 10 seconds to do so, thus would be much more boring than sky snap folding the away players?    yes it's an open forum, but if you post a (in my opinion, and clearly many others) ridiculous thread.   You are going to get "petty" answers.