I reckon he's moved on as he hasn't been seen for a couple of months now, and his last appearance was very much a one off. But remember the analysts aren't contracted to Sky they are all freelance. Sky's a bit like Talksport radio, they never explain when a presenter moves on. It's like Lisa Marie Long she was meant to be presenting the SPT after she stopped studio work I believe but no sighting of her for months now?
I reckon he's moved on as he hasn't been seen for a couple of months now, and his last appearance was very much a one off. Sky's a bit like Talksport radio, they never explain when a presenter moves on. It's like Lisa Marie Long she was meant to be presenting the SPT after she stopped studio work I believe but no sighting of her for months now? Posted by FlyingDagg
LML moved to LA. Bit of a commute for her to come do an SPT weekend
I have indeed left skypoker. It has been an absolute delight to see the community grow. Much respect to the Skypoker bosses for the chance they gave me and I will always be greatful to them.
When we started broadcasting in Feb 2007 the standard of play was simply shocking across the site, Skypoker had vision and their remit was to school the amateur player hence our jobs as analysts was to keep the analysis simple and directed towards the new player.
Fast forward 5 years to a site where the best players on Skypoker are literally world class and a large percentage are BIG winning players, couple that with the standard of the skypoker regs who can mix it with anyone in the uk.
I think we can safely say SkyPoker got it right.
Congratulations to you the players for building the community it has been a pleasure to have been a very small part of it. I will be playing alot of live poker around the uk during the next few months before the cricket season starts so if I wasnt "too" honest about your play over the last few years please come say hi and if I was too honest Id be delighted to buy you a pint.
Hello Skypoker fans and forum viewers, I have indeed left skypoker. It has been an absolute delight to see the community grow. Much respect to the Skypoker bosses for the chance they gave me and I will always be greatful to them. When we started broadcasting in Feb 2007 the standard of play was simply shocking across the site, Skypoker had vision and their remit was to school the amateur player hence our jobs as analysts was to keep the analysis simple and directed towards the new player. Fast forward 5 years to a site where the best players on Skypoker are literally world class and a large percentage are BIG winning players, couple that with the standard of the skypoker regs who can mix it with anyone in the uk. I think we can safely say SkyPoker got it right. Congratulations to you the players for building the community it has been a pleasure to have been a very small part of it. I will be playing alot of live poker around the uk during the next few months before the cricket season starts so if I wasnt "too" honest about your play over the last few years please come say hi and if I was too honest Id be delighted to buy you a pint. Flop well Ed Posted by giddzo
This is why we love you, and why Luke Schwartz was such a great guest.
Have to say I think SKY will miss Ed, believed him to be one of the best presenters they had and always enjoyed the show when he was on. Thunk he will be a hard act to follow. Good luck Ed and hope to see you on the TV soon.
Nice post Ed, it's a sad loss imo but the best of luck to you in the future! You could always get yourself qualified for one of the SPTs or indeed, just pop along to one!
This guy was a great member of the SkyPoker team. I remember watching him for the first time during 'Total Player' and being impressed with his strategy explanations. It would be good to see him back even as a guest analyst on one of the shows .
Awful news Ed, if this was your decision then fair enough but if this was Sky's then both they and us are the poorer for it. You were IMO the best regular analyst on the channel by far and your honestly was a big part of this. Do the majority of players/customers really enjoy losing money in ignorance?
This decision, if it were Sky's, to dispense with a “real” analyst is all the more shocking when I see analysts on 865 week in week out who add nothing more than a running commentary on a hand and another who constantly refers to Omaha when we are watching hold-em.
Maybe like myself you are not everyone’s cup of tea but you will be missed by many, an earlier poster was right, the shows with yourself and Rich were the most entertaining I have seen on 865. Good at your job, honest and entertaining these must be the reasons you have gone!
Good luck in the future Ed, if I ever meet you in person I will buy you a pint, it's the least I owe you for the enjoyment and education I gained watching your shows.
Hello Skypoker fans and forum viewers, I have indeed left skypoker. It has been an absolute delight to see the community grow. Much respect to the Skypoker bosses for the chance they gave me and I will always be greatful to them. When we started broadcasting in Feb 2007 the standard of play was simply shocking across the site, Skypoker had vision and their remit was to school the amateur player hence our jobs as analysts was to keep the analysis simple and directed towards the new player. Fast forward 5 years to a site where the best players on Skypoker are literally world class and a large percentage are BIG winning players, couple that with the standard of the skypoker regs who can mix it with anyone in the uk. I think we can safely say SkyPoker got it right. Congratulations to you the players for building the community it has been a pleasure to have been a very small part of it. I will be playing alot of live poker around the uk during the next few months before the cricket season starts so if I wasnt "too" honest about your play over the last few years please come say hi and if I was too honest Id be delighted to buy you a pint. Flop well Ed Posted by giddzo
Still got you on DVD with Rich analyzing my hands for the old TSP programme when i won it. Was pretty supsrised at the way you almost read my mind with some of the decisions i made
I,m sure we,ll see you back on there at some point in the future. I miss your shows with Rich
I heard you were running errands for Stuart baggs now Is it true
Awful news Ed, if this was your decision then fair enough but if this was Sky's then both they and us are the poorer for it. You were IMO the best regular analyst on the channel by far and your honestly was a big part of this. Do the majority of players/customers really enjoy losing money in ignorance? This decision, if it were Sky's, to dispense with a “real” analyst is all the more shocking when I see analysts on 865 week in week out who add nothing more than a running commentary on a hand and another who constantly refers to Omaha when we are watching hold-em. Maybe like myself you are not everyone’s cup of tea but you will be missed by many, an earlier poster was right, the shows with yourself and Rich were the most entertaining I have seen on 865. Good at your job, honest and entertaining these must be the reasons you have gone! Good luck in the future Ed, if I ever meet you in person I will buy you a pint, it's the least I owe you for the enjoyment and education I gained watching your shows. Posted by stien
Massive +1
I loved Ed's honesty tbh, and i rarley watch the channel now for the reasons stated. Theres being nice and being too nice tbh. Ed imo had the balance. He said it when he felt someone played well and stated when he felt otherwise. Purley imo, you cant learn if your not told straight what your doing wrong. Ed was probably the best at that imo.
I never played on here while Ed was still working on the show as I was underage, but I watched the channel since pretty much the beginning. As everyone else has said, he's probably the best analyst Sky Poker has ever had, and a massive loss to the site and the channel.
Totally agree that people really need to be told when they make a bad play - I loved in the ME when Jen Mason said something along the lines of "I hope he hits his 10", knowing it would probably cost the player his/her tournament if they did, because they'd played the hand terribly. Some people might not have liked Luke Schwartz, but the feedback on here suggested that the majority thought he was a brilliant guest because he wasn't afraid to tell people that they were playing badly.
In the Main Event the other night, I sent in a hand request where I raised AK in the cutoff, Dantb 3 bet with KQ on the button, sb folded, short stack in the BB called about 1/4 of his stack, I 4 bet, Dantb folded, the short stack called again, leaving about 1/3 of his stack back, then check/folded on the flop when I bet. I didn't need to see his cards to know that he'd played it terribly, and I saw when the hand was shown on TV that he had A4.
I think Tikay 3 or 4 years ago would've probably spent the next 5 minutes telling everyone how awful calling with Ace Rag is out of position, and to be honest, I think the show needs more of that to teach players. I can't remember what exactly was said about that hand, but it was pretty much "You can't fold when you only have 5 big blinds left, next hand". In cases like that, I believe players need to be told what exactly they did wrong and why. Saying "You can't fold with 5BB left" doesn't stop the player from calling a raise and a re-raise, then calling a 4 bet out of position with a rag ace.
I appreciate that everyone responds differently to criticism, and for some people, Luke Schwartz telling them they're awful at poker wouldn't work. However, there's no balance either. At the moment, I'd say all the analysts and presenters are less critical of bad play than they could be, and having someone who isn't afraid to tell people they've played a hand terribly would provide some much-needed balance to the analysis on the channel IMO. At the end of the day, the point of the channel is both to promote Sky Poker and teach people to play better, and I think more could be done to teach people.
I hear presenters and analysts saying things on the show about how much the site has moved forwards in terms of the standard of play, bigger tournaments, etc, and for the most part, I agree. However, the one area I don't think the channel has moved forwards is the program itself. Just because the standard on the site has improved doesn't mean that there's not new players out there who will make the mistakes that people were making back when the site began.
"This decision, if it were Sky's, to dispense with a “real” analyst is all the more shocking when I see analysts on 865 week in week out who add nothing more than a running commentary on a hand and another who constantly refers to Omaha when we are watching hold-em. "
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this
could sky clarify whether this was there decision or mutual?
ed is a top bloke and a superb analyst, without naming names he is streets ahead of anything else sky have to offer
Sorry to hear that Ed, all the best in whatever you do next.
Its a real shame about that though, as it seems to be the same people on the show's all the time now and everything is feeling a tad samey. I used to Sky+ the main show's when Ed or TK was on with Rich and get a good laugh as well as an informative show on how to play the game but I no longer do so. Imo the shows need freshened up some more.
Also I wish we could have some Omaha being played on the show's - I know they say its technically hard to do, but I'm sure more people would end up playing it if they did.
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People don't like having there play slagged off etc...
Personally i think hes great, and will be a big miss if he has left.
Sky prefer the more lovey dovey, "that was an unorthadox play" rubbish ...
I reckon he's moved on as he hasn't been seen for a couple of months now, and his last appearance was very much a one off. But remember the analysts aren't contracted to Sky they are all freelance. Sky's a bit like Talksport radio, they never explain when a presenter moves on. It's like Lisa Marie Long she was meant to be presenting the SPT after she stopped studio work I believe but no sighting of her for months now?
Hello Skypoker fans and forum viewers,
I have indeed left skypoker. It has been an absolute delight to see the community grow. Much respect to the Skypoker bosses for the chance they gave me and I will always be greatful to them.
When we started broadcasting in Feb 2007 the standard of play was simply shocking across the site, Skypoker had vision and their remit was to school the amateur player hence our jobs as analysts was to keep the analysis simple and directed towards the new player.
Fast forward 5 years to a site where the best players on Skypoker are literally world class and a large percentage are BIG winning players, couple that with the standard of the skypoker regs who can mix it with anyone in the uk.
I think we can safely say SkyPoker got it right.
Congratulations to you the players for building the community it has been a pleasure to have been a very small part of it. I will be playing alot of live poker around the uk during the next few months before the cricket season starts so if I wasnt "too" honest about your play over the last few years please come say hi and if I was too honest Id be delighted to buy you a pint.
Flop well Ed
In Response to Re: Ed giddins:
This is why we love you, and why Luke Schwartz was such a great guest.Shame to see you go. Gl at the live games !
Have to say I think SKY will miss Ed, believed him to be one of the best presenters they had and always enjoyed the show when he was on. Thunk he will be a hard act to follow.
Good luck Ed and hope to see you on the TV soon.
great post ed... i dont recall any reason for you to buy me a pint. i thought you were greaat.
You could always get yourself qualified for one of the SPTs or indeed, just pop along to one!
This guy was a great member of the SkyPoker team. I remember watching him for the first time during 'Total Player' and being impressed with his strategy explanations. It would be good to see him back even as a guest analyst on one of the shows .
Awful news Ed, if this was your decision then fair enough but if this was Sky's then both they and us are the poorer for it. You were IMO the best regular analyst on the channel by far and your honestly was a big part of this. Do the majority of players/customers really enjoy losing money in ignorance?
This decision, if it were Sky's, to dispense with a “real” analyst is all the more shocking when I see analysts on 865 week in week out who add nothing more than a running commentary on a hand and another who constantly refers to Omaha when we are watching hold-em.
Maybe like myself you are not everyone’s cup of tea but you will be missed by many, an earlier poster was right, the shows with yourself and Rich were the most entertaining I have seen on 865. Good at your job, honest and entertaining these must be the reasons you have gone!
Good luck in the future Ed, if I ever meet you in person I will buy you a pint, it's the least I owe you for the enjoyment and education I gained watching your shows.
Defo agree with stein here in that some analysts dont add anything other than what prob most normal regs on the site could do as well.
All the best for the future, Ed.
I,m sure we,ll see you back on there at some point in the future. I miss your shows with Rich
I heard you were running errands for Stuart baggs now
GL with the future
As I've mentioned on another thread, no other analyst gives anything like the insight into the mathematics involved in playing a hand as Ed did.
I loved Ed's honesty tbh, and i rarley watch the channel now for the reasons stated. Theres being nice and being too nice tbh. Ed imo had the balance. He said it when he felt someone played well and stated when he felt otherwise. Purley imo, you cant learn if your not told straight what your doing wrong. Ed was probably the best at that imo.
Wish you best for the future Ed.
Totally agree that people really need to be told when they make a bad play - I loved in the ME when Jen Mason said something along the lines of "I hope he hits his 10", knowing it would probably cost the player his/her tournament if they did, because they'd played the hand terribly. Some people might not have liked Luke Schwartz, but the feedback on here suggested that the majority thought he was a brilliant guest because he wasn't afraid to tell people that they were playing badly.
I appreciate that everyone responds differently to criticism, and for some people, Luke Schwartz telling them they're awful at poker wouldn't work. However, there's no balance either. At the moment, I'd say all the analysts and presenters are less critical of bad play than they could be, and having someone who isn't afraid to tell people they've played a hand terribly would provide some much-needed balance to the analysis on the channel IMO. At the end of the day, the point of the channel is both to promote Sky Poker and teach people to play better, and I think more could be done to teach people.
PS: Spot Prizes ftw
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