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£200+ NL Games on Sky

edited January 2012 in Poker Chat
As a regular viewer of the Sky channel and microstakes fishcake on the site, I have a few questions regarding the higher stakes games on here.

I don't know exactly how many players are regulars in the £200+ games, but from what I have seen there seems to be the same group of 15 or so core players and a few additions from time to time. We all know who the regulars are, so no need to mention any names here.

From a casual observer there appears to be very little difference in skill levels between all the winning players in these games. One night LOL_Raise will be the big winner, then Roosiedog, Stien, beaneh, Launder, etc,etc,etc,etc. I can understand where the money comes from at the lower levels, but above £0.50/1 where does the money come from? From what I have seen it appears to circulate amongst these same core players? . At the microstakes, many new players are depositing and bad regulars ( like me, lol ) are re-depositing when needed. This explains the 'new' money that feeds the microstakes games, however most of the players listed above don't drop down below £0.50/1, so where do their profits come from?

I have played at various other sites and have viewed their equivalent stakes games $1/2 and above. Obviously on sites like Pokerstars and network sites the level of traffic is much higher. Even at $1/2 on some of the other sites many bad players frequent these games and provide 'food' for the winning players. On Sky, the players at £1/2 are mostly winning players who are very equal in skill level.

Do the higher stakes players on Sky also play on other sites or is it a case moving money between each other and picking up money from the cash for points?

I am not taking a shot at Sky, I am a fan of the site and want to build my bankroll on here in 2012. I am just curious :-)

thanks


Lewis
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  • edited January 2012
    Ive often wondered the very same thing and have abso no idea what the answer is
  • edited January 2012
    there are enough randoms

    there are a lot of 'bad regs' who lose/break even in the games and do lots of C4P

    there are some people who bink big on MTTs on here (well known names) who are talked about on the TV show as if they are Ivey and then do the lot on the cash tables

    there are players who move up/take shots

    there are people who have a score on sky vegas and give poker a try


  • edited January 2012
    In Response to £200+ NL Games on Sky:
    As a regular viewer of the Sky channel and microstakes fishcake on the site, I have a few questions regarding the higher stakes games on here. I don't know exactly how many players are regulars in the £200+ games, but from what I have seen there seems to be the same group of 15 or so core players and a few additions from time to time. We all know who the regulars are, so no need to mention any names here. From a casual observer there appears to be very little difference in skill levels between all the winning players in these games. One night LOL_Raise will be the big winner, then Roosiedog, Stien, beaneh, Launder, etc,etc,etc,etc. I can understand where the money comes from at the lower levels, but above £0.50/1 where does the money come from? From what I have seen it appears to circulate amongst these same core players? . At the microstakes, many new players are depositing and bad regulars ( like me, lol ) are re-depositing when needed. This explains the 'new' money that feeds the microstakes games, however most of the players listed above don't drop down below £0.50/1, so where do their profits come from? I have played at various other sites and have viewed their equivalent stakes games $1/2 and above. Obviously on sites like Pokerstars and network sites the level of traffic is much higher. Even at $1/2 on some of the other sites many bad players frequent these games and provide 'food' for the winning players. On Sky, the players at £1/2 are mostly winning players who are very equal in skill level. Do the higher stakes players on Sky also play on other sites or is it a case moving money between each other and picking up money from the cash for points? I am not taking a shot at Sky, I am a fan of the site and want to build my bankroll on here in 2012. I am just curious :-) thanks Lewis
    Posted by H3lp-PDSA

    Alot of the money just feeds up to the higher limits. There is allways one or two names that moves up to the higher limits when they get a win either on sky vegas or take down a bounty hunter ect. The whole system kind of relies on people not being able to stick to thier BRM. For example take me - im not a regualr at the higher stakes cash games but i will play them if i happen to have the money online at any given time.
     I both win and lose at that level some days ill dump £800 some days ill win £800 but overall im probably down a grand or two because i don't play cash enough and when i do its almost allways at the higher limits. I just can't get excited about sitting down and playing 25p 50p because £30/£50 isn't going to make a huge difference to my day/week/month. 
     There are plently of regular dumpers at the higher limits, don't worry about the Higher Stakes players they won't go hungry.

    Cheers Kyle
  • edited January 2012
    Good question Lewis! does seem like just the same 10/15 regulars but i think there are more players taking shots at the higher levels than you may think so thats where the money is coming from.
    Doubt the' cash for points' really makes that much of a difference for these guys, just pocket change for LOL_RAISE lol
    I wouldnt let it put you off playing these limits if your bankroll supports it and your confident enough.

  • edited January 2012
    theres always a recreational player losing money on every table, remember for the regs to break even there has to be a lot of people spending money, never mind if the regs want to make money.

    even if a reg is better than another reg where does the weaker reg get there money from.

    If no one is spending money there is no game.
  • edited January 2012

    Thanks for your answers.  As the traffic is lower at the higher games on Sky, do you feel there is a case for the standard of play at the £1/2 levels and above being higher than some other sites? .  As most of the players in these games are winning players, surely playing with other good players every time you sit at the table has to be a positive thing.

    I have a friend who was a regular in FullTilts $2/4 games before the site disappeared. When he was looking for a new home, I suggested Sky. His feelings were there were not enough weak opponents at the higher games to make it worthwhile, he felt the overall standard was tough in the big games and poor at the lower levels. 

  • edited January 2012
    i think alot of the money at 200nl comes from solidish regs and recreational players that play 50nl and 100nl and are good enough to beat that (as there is alot of randoms in them games) who also mix in 200nl, lose in the games but never realise as its hard to track results by stakes

    alos there are lots of ppl who play a hell of alot of poker even at 200nl and i dont believe they make money, i have no clue where that money comes from :S
  • edited January 2012
    most games do get fish in them too normally like 4regs and 2fish set up. not today mind man the games are soo bad its just not even worth play atm
  • edited January 2012
    i tell you what i do sometimes think about, sometimes i look at a tables lobby and see 6 winning regs all playing each other and i think does any1 have an edge bigger than the rake in this game? and do all 6 of these ppl delude themselves that that all have an edge on each other? they cant all be right. then i go play battlefield instead.
  • edited January 2012
    bf3 is going to be the main obstacle between me and getting the 60k c4p this month!
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: £200+ NL Games on Sky:
    i tell you what i do sometimes think about, sometimes i look at a tables lobby and see 6 winning regs all playing each other and i think does any1 have an edge bigger than the rake in this game? and do all 6 of these ppl delude themselves that that all have an edge on each other? they cant all be right. then i go play battlefield instead.
    Posted by nmipeis

    sir you are spot on in many ways.


    more importantly BF3

    myself and lol_raise often die together in a patheticly inept squad, pm your screenname and we can die together :D
  • edited January 2012
    bf3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>poker
  • edited January 2012

    What I have learnt from this thread?  I need to get BF3.

  • edited January 2012
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  • edited January 2012
    battlefield 3 ps3 xbox260 pc game
  • edited January 2012
    it crashes my computer every time i play it. :(
  • edited January 2012
    haha offshoot, i bought a 1.4k comp pretty much so i could play it on ultra graphics
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: £200+ NL Games on Sky:
    haha offshoot, i bought a 1.4k comp pretty much so i could play it on ultra graphics
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    that is comitment to the game
  • edited January 2012
     That is sad!
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: £200+ NL Games on Sky:
    In Response to Re: £200+ NL Games on Sky : that is comitment to the game
    Posted by nmipeis

    it's a fecking sick game though.

    And we play on PC nmipies not PS3 you mad console user you!
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: £200+ NL Games on Sky:
    haha offshoot, i bought a 1.4k comp pretty much so i could play it on ultra graphics
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    My computers fairly new and can handle it on ultra settings but it just crashes because its broken as **** and i havent got round to fixing it yet. It crashes all the time for no reason. More so when i trry to play BF though so i just dont bother atm and play the ps3.
  • edited January 2012
    In Response to £200+ NL Games on Sky:
    As a regular viewer of the Sky channel and microstakes fishcake on the site, I have a few questions regarding the higher stakes games on here. I don't know exactly how many players are regulars in the £200+ games, but from what I have seen there seems to be the same group of 15 or so core players and a few additions from time to time. We all know who the regulars are, so no need to mention any names here. From a casual observer there appears to be very little difference in skill levels between all the winning players in these games. One night LOL_Raise will be the big winner, then Roosiedog, Stien, beaneh, Launder, etc,etc,etc,etc. I can understand where the money comes from at the lower levels, but above £0.50/1 where does the money come from? From what I have seen it appears to circulate amongst these same core players? . At the microstakes, many new players are depositing and bad regulars ( like me, lol ) are re-depositing when needed. This explains the 'new' money that feeds the microstakes games, however most of the players listed above don't drop down below £0.50/1, so where do their profits come from? I have played at various other sites and have viewed their equivalent stakes games $1/2 and above. Obviously on sites like Pokerstars and network sites the level of traffic is much higher. Even at $1/2 on some of the other sites many bad players frequent these games and provide 'food' for the winning players. On Sky, the players at £1/2 are mostly winning players who are very equal in skill level. Do the higher stakes players on Sky also play on other sites or is it a case moving money between each other and picking up money from the cash for points? I am not taking a shot at Sky, I am a fan of the site and want to build my bankroll on here in 2012. I am just curious :-) thanks Lewis
    Posted by H3lp-PDSA
    watched a guy blow off nearly 15k to a high stakes reg who ive never really seen anybody play so id say there will allways be somebody willing to give them money
  • edited January 2012

    On here Quadfather?  

  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: £200+ NL Games on Sky:
    On here Quadfather?  
    Posted by H3lp-PDSA
    yep last night £10/£20 plo
  • edited January 2012
    Nice, must be a good feeling to win that just after Christmas.
  • edited January 2012
    We are on TV played his yearly game last night.


  • edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: £200+ NL Games on Sky:
    We are on TV played his yearly game last night.
    Posted by scotty77
    hahaha so true.
     i've waited 2 years and never seen this guy play.
  • edited January 2012
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