taking poker a little more seriously

IDONKCALLU

Hi all, my name is Steve, let me tell u a litle bit about myself.
 
Well, where do i start? I have been playing poker for about 10 years now, I can't say I have improved my game but do learn new things each day. I used to work in a bookmakers back in 2003 - 2007 and I think this helps with my game like pot odds and implied odds etc.
 
I now work part time and earn my bit on the side playing poker, I want to take my game to the next level and be more dedicated to the game. I play on the site about 5 hours a day just grinding away and really was thinking making a deposit of 3 figures to start the ball rolling as my bankroll.  The question is as im taking poker more serious now and dont want to be a recreational player any advice on what kind of games i should be playing?
 
I dont like playing dyms as i found them a lil robotic and boring and mtts i do like playing but the variance is so high could go without a win in ages any advice would be great?
 
Thanks  Steve aka Idonkcallu 

FCHD

Hi Steve, I'm sure there are a lot of players better placed than me to offer advice, but it would make your posts infinitely easier to read and understand if you used a little punctuation and used capital letters where appropriate. With 200 or so words just there as  a stream of text, I'm sure a lot of people who could help will just decide not to bother reading it.

AcidMan27

In Response to taking poker a little more seriously:

Hi all my names steve i will tell u a litle bit about myself well where do i start.......

I have been playing poker for about 10 years now, i cant say i have improved my game but do learn new things each day. I used to work in a bookmakers back in 2003 - 2007 and i think this helps with my game like pot odds and implied odds etc.

I now work part time and earn my bit on the side playing poker, i want to take my game to the next level and be more dedicated to the game.

I play on the site about 5 hours a day just grinding away really was thinking making a deposit of 3 figures to start the ball rolling as my bankroll.
The question is......... as im taking poker more serious now and dnt want to be a recreational player, any advice on what kind of games i should be playing ?

I dont like playing dyms as i found them a lil robotic and boring and mtts i do like playing but the variance is so high could go without a win in ages.

Any advice would be great thanks.

Steve aka idonkcallu 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

IDONKCALLU

yeah my punctuation and grammar is poor thanks acidman i shall post how u done it thanks pal  

YOUNG_GUN

Do you ask your mum before going to the toilet? 

IDONKCALLU

???? cant help it my grammar is bad 

YOUNG_GUN

In Response to Re: taking poker a little more seriously:

???? cant help it my grammar is bad 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

My comment has nothing to do with grammar...

SolarCarro

OK Chaps

Keep this one on topic please, banter is fine but this is getting too personal, the OP has asked a legitimate question and there are plenty of peeps here that can help him

Mod Hat on (Solar)

delaney09

dont like playing dyms as i found them a lil robotic and boring and mtts i do like playing but the variance is so high could go without a win in ages.

you have answered your own question, you say you don't like dyms as they are robotic, and you dislike the high variance that comes with MTT's... so you basically either want to play cash or husngs ?

IDONKCALLU

yeah but not sure what to play just want peoples suggestions what they would do with a 3 figure bankroll aprt from dyms whats best way to make a steady profit small cash ?

IDONKCALLU

young gun i dunno y u get sarcastic with me im sure we all have a weakness or cant do something properly and u seem to take the mick out of it i find it offensive in future can u keep your comments to yourself i wouldnt do it to you be much appreciated all i come on here to do is ask for some advice and get u take the pi ss i dont find it funny 

delaney09

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yeah but not sure what to play just want peoples suggestions what they would do with a 3 figure bankroll aprt from dyms whats best way to make a steady profit small cash ?
Posted by IDONKCALLU

if you want to play cash, are you talking low 3figs ? then start out at 4nl you shouldn't have much trouble there then when you get to 400 move up to 8nl that will give you 50 buyins ( better to be a br nit, then not care about your bankroll at all and try to move up through the levels as quick as you can with aggro brm as at the end you will find yourself coming up short), you probably are going to think why am i playing this low i know i can beat it but it's about building your bankroll, everyone has to start somewhere

DOHHHHHHH

Cash will be the best way IDCU, can you multi table? How many?

AcidMan27

Three figures = what ?  that could be £100 upto £999.

Cash will be your best bet and if you want to make a living out of it then you need to be playing at the correct level.

So you need to be comfortably rolled for it and be able to beat it.

YOUNG_GUN

i'll put my spoon away for this thread idcu sorry cant resistt it sometimes  

IDONKCALLU

yeah low 3 figs i can play 4 tables but my computer is not very good and screens keep freezing up all the time so i can play 2 comftably enough so is 10 nl ok  or lower ? hope i do well to buy a decent computer or laptop as the 1 i have is not good multitable

DOHHHHHHH

How old is your comp???

Post in tech queries there might be something stopping u from playing 4, u shud be able to do 4 ok!

Multi tabling rly helps when playing low stakes cash to build a roll........

YOUNG_GUN

If your starting Bankroll is £100, i personally think nl10 x 2 is very risky. Especially if you want to take more seriously you should be looking at a min of 40buy ins for each level.

To start of with 25 BI at nl4 is ok, would be better to 4 table but 2 x fine if thats what its used to.

dont jump up to nl8 untill you have 40 buy ins = £320

GL

IDONKCALLU

good advice that delaney but i dont like 4 nl this may sound strange but i find it hard at that level people call on anything i like to get respect when i raise and i find people go on anything on that level no disrespect to people that play that level just find it easier on 10 nl 

delaney09

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good advice that delaney but i dont like 4 nl this may sound strange but i find it hard at that level people call on anything i like to get respect when i raise and i find people go on anything on that level no disrespect to people that play that level just find it easier on 10 nl 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

ok so if you start out at 10nl what are you likely going to be depositing ? £300 ish ? = 30 buyins you realisitically want to be staying at 10nl until you are beating it comfortably and your roll is comfortable to start taking shots @ 20nl so like when you get to 800 start taking shots while still primarily focusing on your game @ 10nl then when you think you are beating 10nl successfully over a large sample move up to 20nl ( want your bankroll to be minimum 1k-1.2k) main thing is game selection look for the softer games when you start to take shots @ 20nl get loads of notes on regs/fish etc so thet once you move up your only having to add to those notes instead of starting from scratch

IDONKCALLU

i got just over 200 so i think 10nl is fine i think ? its old dohhhhh when i play 4 i get a pop up message saying computer running to much and this will make your computer to slow also i get a adobe flash player message pop up and all my screeens freeze im happy with 2 tables till i get a new computer 

devonfish5

Hi Steve,(IDONKCALLU)

only just read your post.
i know exactly whet u mean about playing 4 n/l cash.
it,s where i have been TRYING to grind myself for 18 months or so,
also tried it at 10 n/l as well,
which is deffo a better level to play,
the downside though is bigger swings,
so u need to be carefull that your b/roll doesn,t get too low
or any losses start hurting you,
trust me....i know!.

just as a matter of fact,
(maybe of no interest to you,or anyone else 4 that matter,)
i,ve started playing dym,s
(which i think u either said ,
you didn,t enjoy,or found them robotic,)
well,i have won just over £200 playing them,
since 14th nov,2011

"just saying"

make of that what you will!

anyway Steve,
sure to see you at the tables somewhere,i expect!

good luck
and best wishes

devon

scotty77

nl4 probably has the highest level of newbie/recreational players so therefore is the easiest level to win at....that is if you are any good. comments like 'they don't respect my raises' are just so lol DUCY?

SHANXTA

what scotty says

if u can't beat nl4 give up

Lambert180

As above, I'm not trying to be nasty but think about any decent player and imagine them saying what you said... would Lolufold say 'I can't beat 4NL cos no-one respects my raises'... No, he'd adapt his game to beat them and adapting your game to beat the guys at 4nl is VERY easy.

Also, on the computer front... have a tidy up, remove useless unncessary programs that you don't use, most people have loads of things they installed and used once and never again, get rid. Then defrag your computer, should be able to just search for Disk Defragmenter in windows explorer. And definitely get Spybot (free download) if you haven't already got it because it's amazing how much a bit of spyware/malware and other junk can wreck the speed of your comp.

rancid

£200 BR

mini ME & NL4/8

Spikelad

Hi Steve i wish you all the best and hope you do well,i have just started out playing nl4 cash and i am enjoying it .You are right in what you say about players not respecting raises which has got to be a good thing.

It is your money mate so you can do what you want with it and play at whatever level you choose,however i do agree with what scotty and Lambert say regarding this level.I have worked out that the secret is adapting my game to counter the players at this level is the way forward.


So far i have not found it easy the way Lambert describes but i will keep trying.all the best Steve and let us know how you are doing.

IDONKCALLU

Hi all been a profitable day started the day with bankroll of £200 did get upto £239 but lost a buy in on nl 10 master cash table so now got £219 all profit now going to play some small mtts 

Lambert180

In Response to Re: taking poker a little more seriously:

Hi all been a profitable day started the day with bankroll of £200 did get upto £239 but lost a buy in on nl 10 master cash table so now got £219 all profit now going to play some small mtts 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

I see you really took on board your own advice about taking the game more seriously and MTTs being too high variance...

EvilPingu

For Master Cash NL10 with a maximum buy-in, you should probably be looking at 50 buy-ins minimum, therefore £1k in your roll.

If you had £239 when you started playing NL10 Master Cash, you've put 20/239*100 = about 8.5% of your bankroll in play at one time, which is pretty bad.

rancid

If you feel you can beat the level then playing with 20-25 buy ins should not be a problem

BUT

If you fall below 20 buy in's then you MUST step down a level or two

otherwise varaince will crush you or you just can't beat the level your playing