should i just jam right away

craigcu12

preflop seems to be a time callers will do it with anything yet post flop they mainly fold so i'm thinking i could get so much more money this way

Frogmella	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£13.36
craigcu12	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.19
	Your hole cards	K K
TOD19	Fold
dre136	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£3.88
bpctlc	Call		£0.16	£0.38	£6.90
pomfrittes	Raise		£0.52	£0.90	£2.87
Frogmella	Fold
craigcu12	Raise		£1.92	£2.82	£2.27
dre136	All-in		£3.88	£6.70	£0.00
bpctlc	Call		£3.88	£10.58	£3.02
pomfrittes	All-in		£2.87	£13.45	£0.00
craigcu12	All-in		£2.27	£15.72	£0.00
bpctlc	Call		£0.19	£15.91	£2.83
craigcu12	Show	K K
dre136	Show	Q Q
bpctlc	Show	10 10
pomfrittes	Show	A 10
Flop
		3 7 8
Turn
		J
River
		9
pomfrittes	Win	Straight to the Jack	£6.27		£6.27
bpctlc	Win	Straight to the Jack	£8.44		£11.27

Lambert180

No the raise is fine, and ok you lost this one but pretty dream spot for a quadruple up

calcalfold

Raise is fine.

Cant just suggest shoving because of the outcome.

A shove will prevent so many hands calling that pay you off long term.

craigcu12

In Response to Re: should i just jam right away:

Raise is fine. Cant just suggest shoving because of the outcome. A shove will prevent so many hands calling that pay you off long term.
Posted by calcalfold

i now fear weather i should even raise with these because i am getting so sick of the amount of villian who still see any a as valueable enough to call it's as if it now will be better to shove with AK or AQ that KK QQ.

adz777

if u jam ur loose value unless your playing on a very loose table!! bit of a cooler though, with the way the betting was being raised you was lucky not to be up against AA if your calling 2 all in shoves with the 2nd best hand pre you gotta expect the worst but hey u had the best of it so is abit harsh for me id call but in a mtt im never calling 2 shoves with kings!!

craigcu12

In Response to Re: should i just jam right away:

if u jam ur loose value unless your playing on a very loose table!! bit of a cooler though, with the way the betting was being raised you was lucky not to be up against AA if your calling 2 all in shoves with the 2nd best hand pre you gotta expect the worst but hey u had the best of it so is abit harsh for me id call but in a mtt im never calling 2 shoves with kings!!
Posted by adz777

which MMT do you play it because i would love to be in them ones myself as the tourneys i am in get people jamming with Axo which twice cost me the tourney
1st jammed with QQ got called by A8
them get jammed  by A8 and so i call with KK and he hit his A
the only time i think jamming is not worth it is when it is a sat.