this was the hand craig i thought the man was bluffing and had big ace

danboy22

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Mac528	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£4.36
Ashton1111	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£3.52
	Your hole cards	10 10
danboy22	Raise		£0.24	£0.36	£6.85
shark11	Raise		£0.88	£1.24	£8.25
iGotUrz	Fold
Mac528	Fold
Ashton1111	Call		£0.80	£2.04	£2.72
danboy22	Call		£0.64	£2.68	£6.21
Flop
		6 5 8
Ashton1111	Check
danboy22	Check
shark11	Bet		£1.34	£4.02	£6.91
Ashton1111	Fold
danboy22	All-in		£6.21	£10.23	£0.00
shark11	All-in		£6.91	£17.14	£0.00
shark11	Unmatched bet		£2.04	£15.10	£2.04
danboy22	Show	10 10
shark11	Show	A A
Turn
		9
River
		K
shark11	Win	Pair of Aces	£13.96

Lambert180

If he is bluffing with a big ace, you shoving just makes him snap fold.

Are you raising because you're bluffing (want better hands than yours to fold) or raising because you want to get called by worse? I'm not sure either will happen.

BorinLoner

I agree with Lambert again.

You've got to think about the range of hands he can be holding, not try to put him on one specific type of hand. You'll frequently hear players say things like "I put him on AK". These people are almost always players that don't understand the game very well. They usually mean "I hoped he had AK because that's all I could beat."

As Lambert says, even if your opponent did have a big Ace here you shouldn't shove the flop. By doing so, you're just making him fold a hand that you're way ahead of. He might be willing to put more money in on the turn if you just call, so by raising you lose value from his weaker hand. If he has a bigger pair, you're just giving him easy money.

When you're thinking about the range of hands he can have, look at the way he's played and see what hands make sense:

His first action is to make a pre-flop 3-bet. Most players don't do this without a pretty big hand, so we can usually narrow his range right down to hands like AK, AQ, JJ, QQ, KK and AA. Some players 3-bet more hands than this, some players 3-bet fewer but let's just assume that's right for this guy.

So if we call the pre-flop 3-bet, we should realise that most of the hands he can have are better than TT. When we call, we should be doing so to set-mine. This means that if we miss the Ten on the flop we have to give up the pot. Sometimes we'll be folding the best hand but more often we're making the right fold.

thejudge10

You raise 4x,your oppo then 3- bets you for another 8bbs,this itself raises alarm bells.so we call and go to the flop.pretty good flop for 10s,so we check,oppo bets 1/2 pot we shove,as posted above why are we shoving,we only get hands we are beating to fold and get called by a hand thats crushing us.On the odd occasion we might get called with the nut flush draw,say AKs,even then were still vunerable.

as borin loner points out we should only be playing to set mine,if we miss then fold to a bet.

players are not betting  the flop with nothig here,after a huge 3 bet pre.