I find that almost every woman I've ever played live has felt that men play differently against them because they're women.
I also find that men play the same against tight women as they do against tight men. I find men play against loose women (had to say it) the same way as they do against loose men. I find men play against fishy women the same way as they play against fishy men. (Of course there will be exceptions but this is generally true)
I've been told myself by a woman that "You play differently against me because I'm a woman". The reality was that I was indeed playing differently against her... because she was terrible.
I think it's almost always more about the woman's perceptions than it is any genuinely prejudiced thoughts from the man.
am i the only one who finds boringloner discussing "loose women" "tight women" and "fishy women" rather contradicting? No offence to women - just boring loners Posted by The_Don90
I've met women. Some of them have spoken to me. No joke.
Yes, women, generally are considered to be tight poker players by men. So it is a massive advantage in live poker to be an aggressive female player imo (until you are found out lol)
Online, it doesn't matter so much as lots of men have female avatars so i never know who is male and who isn't, if I haven't found out before, or met them in person.
In respect of the OP's question. Yes, women, generally are considered to be tight poker players by men. So it is a massive advantage in live poker to be an aggressive female player imo (until you are found out lol) Online, it doesn't matter so much as lots of men have female avatars so i never know who is male and who isn't, if I haven't found out before, or met them in person. Posted by GREGHOGG
In Response to Re: Ladies : Why do so many men have female avatars? Posted by MrJoeBlogs
Because there's a silly idea that all women are bad at poker. So if you have a neutral sounding name with a female avatar, some foolish people may assume you're a woman (and bad).
Probably worked about 5 years ago, doubt it does anymore.
The stereotype that women in general play much tighter than men goes back a long way. It was first popularised by Mike Caro in his book of tells. He essentially racially and sexually profiled ethnicities and women into categories, of course he never did this for a white male because I assume he thought they had no tendencies, being one himself.
The basis for the stereotype goes to fact that up until recently very few women compared to the amount of men playing had any interest in poker. It was exceptionally rare for a woman to walk into a poker room on her own because she wanted to play, the few women there were normally brought/dragged along by their male partner. As a result, the majority of these women weren't very experienced and took a very risk adverse route to starting hands.
This has now changed IMO, however a lot of men still maintain the stereotype. As a result, an intelligent woman can now rip certain male players a new one by picking their spots carefully and causing absolute carnage. So no, I don't assume that. It is still the case that if you take every female player in the world and put them on a Vpip graph, the mean average would still lean towards the tight, however people really need IMO to stop using stereotypes as a starting point for ranges and start everyone from point dot. I know many pros (very good ones too) still do this in MTTs as you get so many new faces and they feel the need to start from a point 'before proven otherwise.' I prefer letting them worry about me and hopefully I'll pick up on their tendencies pretty quick. Starting from a stereotype point just encourages lazy play when you're not in a hand IMO.
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I also find that men play the same against tight women as they do against tight men. I find men play against loose women (had to say it) the same way as they do against loose men. I find men play against fishy women the same way as they play against fishy men. (Of course there will be exceptions but this is generally true)
I've been told myself by a woman that "You play differently against me because I'm a woman". The reality was that I was indeed playing differently against her... because she was terrible.
I think it's almost always more about the woman's perceptions than it is any genuinely prejudiced thoughts from the man.
Why do so many men have female avatars?
Probably worked about 5 years ago, doubt it does anymore.
Yes, they generally play very loose and weak and bad.
"SHE DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!"
nuff said
The stereotype that women in general play much tighter than men goes back a long way. It was first popularised by Mike Caro in his book of tells. He essentially racially and sexually profiled ethnicities and women into categories, of course he never did this for a white male because I assume he thought they had no tendencies, being one himself.
The basis for the stereotype goes to fact that up until recently very few women compared to the amount of men playing had any interest in poker. It was exceptionally rare for a woman to walk into a poker room on her own because she wanted to play, the few women there were normally brought/dragged along by their male partner. As a result, the majority of these women weren't very experienced and took a very risk adverse route to starting hands.
This has now changed IMO, however a lot of men still maintain the stereotype. As a result, an intelligent woman can now rip certain male players a new one by picking their spots carefully and causing absolute carnage. So no, I don't assume that. It is still the case that if you take every female player in the world and put them on a Vpip graph, the mean average would still lean towards the tight, however people really need IMO to stop using stereotypes as a starting point for ranges and start everyone from point dot. I know many pros (very good ones too) still do this in MTTs as you get so many new faces and they feel the need to start from a point 'before proven otherwise.' I prefer letting them worry about me and hopefully I'll pick up on their tendencies pretty quick. Starting from a stereotype point just encourages lazy play when you're not in a hand IMO.