thoughts,,,

1281

sat into the 2k mini bh tonight and was buzzing,,,,,,, then this

was i right to re-raise??

thanks

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancebedsySmall blind 30.0030.003760.001281Big blind 60.0090.002880.00 Your hole cardsJJ   poker69Call 60.00150.003630.00PlayMe_Call 60.00210.004105.00jason1Fold    DoyleBrunRaise 300.00510.001975.00bedsyFold    1281Raise 960.001470.001920.00poker69Fold    PlayMe_Fold    DoyleBrunAll-in 1975.003445.000.001281Call 1255.004700.00665.001281ShowJJ   DoyleBrunShowKK   Flop  443   Turn  8   River  4   DoyleBrunWinFull House, 4s and Kings4700.00 4700.00

The_Don90

Raise, call, 3b action on us. I probably just fold tbh. Obviously would depend on reads, but this early i think we will have better spots. 

Lambert180

Don it's gone limp, call, iso.

Villian could be isolating with SO many hands worse than JJ, the 3bet is good providing it's because you know you're 100% calling off a shove when it comes.

Well played, unlucky.

The_Don90

In Response to Re: thoughts,,,:

Don it's gone limp, call, iso. Villian could be isolating with SO many hands worse than JJ, the 3bet is good providing it's because you know you're 100% calling off a shove when it comes. Well played, unlucky.
Posted by Lambert180

ah misread - Yes as paul says then

BorinLoner

The 3-bet's too big when you consider the button's stack size. You give him little opportunity to 4-bet with weaker hands because he knows he has no fold equity. That also means it's obvious to him that he can get value from his bigger hands. So your 3-bet size has made it easy for him to play his hand.

Usually a "standard" 3-bet when we're deep would be around three times the size of the initial raise. Here that would be 900 while you've actually made it 1020. In this situation with a short effective stack, a better 3-betting size would probably be around 750-800 or so. That's an amount that might leave him with the idea that he has some fold equity and doesn't allow him an easy decision with TT, AJ, etc.

Against his stack size you can't 3-bet-fold, though. You just want to be 3-betting an amount that gets maximum value from the widest possible range.

If we want to consider flatting the pre-flop raise, we have to know why we're doing it and what we want to happen. If we make the button's raising range really narrow (for whatever reason) then we don't really have the implied odds to set-mine. If his range is wider than that (which it almost certainly is) then we can call pre-flop to check the flop to him and allow him to c-bet, to extract more value from weaker hands. The problem with that idea is that you'll see at least one overcard to the JJ on the flop around 50% of the time. Playing JJ out of position on the flop is going to be tricky.

Put simply, I think it's best to 3-bet here but we still want to keep his range as wide as possible, so we need to be 3-betting relatively small.