why would AJ still call a board as dangerous as this

craigcu12

this was from the min BH. i just changed tables so did not have a good read  of the villian
did i just go in too quick on the turn or would a raise on the flop have been better?

thebookie2	Small blind		100.00	100.00	4666.25
JONONZIE	Big blind		200.00	300.00	11510.00
	Your hole cards	10 A
losthornet	Fold
cassam	Fold
X	Raise		462.00	762.00	9790.00
craigcu12	Call		462.00	1224.00	5730.50
thebookie2	Fold
JONONZIE	Fold
Flop
		9 10 Q
X	Bet		462.00	1686.00	9328.00
craigcu12	Call		462.00	2148.00	5268.50
Turn
		J
X	Bet		1050.00	3198.00	8278.00
craigcu12	Raise		2100.00	5298.00	3168.50
X	Call		1050.00	6348.00	7228.00
River
		6
X	Check
craigcu12	All-in		3168.50	9516.50	0.00
X	Call		3168.50	12685.00	4059.50
X	Show	A J
craigcu12	Show	10 A
X	Win	Pair of Jacks	12685.00		16744.50

The_Don90

I mean no harm when i say worry about what we can control. Its a bounty hunter people dont fold. 

craigcu12

In Response to Re: why would AJ still call a board as dangerous as this:

I mean no harm when i say worry about what we can control. Its a bounty hunter people dont fold. 
Posted by The_Don90

well forget them bad beats where i lost from shoving preflop because this is worst than any of them because the only hand that was still behind on the turn would be Ad 10d in comparison to the number of hands ahead on the turn. i did look the villian up on the sharkscope and that says it all because she/he has not yet played in any tournament so to this villian a head is a decent enough prize for here to simply make the call with the worst of hands just in the hope that i had that Ad10d

sighcall

u think hes ever folding river?

craigcu12

In Response to Re: why would AJ still call a board as dangerous as this:

u think hes ever folding river?
Posted by sighcall

even if he didn't fold the river why did he call the turn when any 8 or K as well as AK QJ J10 AQ 109 j9 are all ahead of him in so he would have most time been chasing a K.
the only hand possible to be behind on the turn is Ad 10d most other times that villian would have been behind so if he is going to call why does he not go for the jam himself instead of just calling it.

craigcu12

what i mainly am asking in regards to this post is what could i have done as a bluff that would have got the villian to fold a hand as weak as AJ?

NColley

Doesn't look like the sizing a total noob would make

you rep nothing and got owned by the looks of it

if you had a straight you'd flat, if you had 2 pair you'd flat, if you had a set you'd flat, min raising was prob the worse option out of the four choices you had

Lambert180

I don't understand the turn raise at all.

I assume we're turning our hand into a bluff because obv on a board with 4 to an OESD, holding 3rd pair, we are NEVER getting called by worse.

If he calls the turn, very unlikely he'll fold the river when you only have a 1/2 pot sized bet left.

Call pre is fine, call on the flop is ok but I'm not loving life, I'm snap folding when he barrels the turn.

FWIW, he isn't in that bad shape at any point. If you raise the flop, you might get a fold or he might reship, but we have no idea that he has AJ so it's no good saying what you should have done after knowing his exact hand. Imo the turn is a terrible card for us and we just need to cut our losses now.

Board: 9d Tc Qh
Dead: 

    equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied   
Hand 0:     57.740%      56.54%     01.20%              80604          1710.00   { ATs, ATo }
Hand 1:     42.260%      41.06%     01.20%              58536          1710.00   { AJs, AJo }