20nl deep under-repped hand v lag villain, raise or flat otr?

DOHHHHHHH

Yo.

Decided to flat here pre and let my opponent have the lead post flop, think it's a decent ploy this deep against a loose player who likes to barrell and bluff away and will probably value bet quite wide on all streets.

Question is otr, do I bottle it and just flat his third bet, or stick to the initial plan and go for some value having under-repped my hand throughout?

He'll probably find it hard to fold any Qx here if I click it, and will only shove if I'm beat so I can comfortably raise fold.

Very possible he can have 7x also, will probably just flat this if I raise.

Only behind to 7x, QQ, AA and maybe 66. Doubt he's got jacks ever after barrelling turn.

Villain knows me well, my image of making bad bluffs in weird spots that make little sense might get me paid in spots like this?

Wanted to make it £15.50 and fold to a shove? Thoughts?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
IDONKCALLU	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£50.29
UP	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£39.50
	Your hole cards	K K
bearlyther	Fold
xxx	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£54.71
The_Don90	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£0.60	£1.50	£63.66
IDONKCALLU	Fold
UP	Call		£0.40	£1.90	£39.10
Flop
		7 Q 7
UP	Check
xxx	Bet		£1.00	£2.90	£53.71
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£1.00	£3.90	£62.66
UP	Fold
Turn
		6
xxx	Bet		£2.60	£6.50	£51.11
DOHHHHHHH	Call		£2.60	£9.10	£60.06
River
		J
xxx	Bet		£6.80	£15.90	£44.31
DOHHHHHHH

Lambert180

Yeah I like a raise/fold here.

offshoot

make it 17ish. Never ever flat river.

GELDY

I think you answered it yourself.

given all the info you have provided then flatting the river would indeed be bottling it. can't see anything to suggest your sneaky plan has gone awry.

beaneh

In Response to Re: 20nl deep under-repped hand v lag villain, raise or flat otr?:

make it 17ish. Never ever flat river.
Posted by offshoot

rofl you sure take your own advice.

dohhhh 300bb deep 3bet pre, you say he's sick lose aggro and bets like so much innit, then he's just going to bet call trips.

you'll most likely just raise and get bet tank called by better a bunch. you peeld pre to widen potential ranges post, and he's fired 3 awesome, now call.  you didn't peel pre to put him on 2 combos you can beat then put in a raise when you know he can have a whole bunch of the combos you lose to given he can have 7x/66/JJ etc he sure is bet calling TT or 88 on the river.

Name a hand other than AQ/QJ that he bet calls on the river that we beat.

The_Don90

I think oppo can barrel with with Jacks on turn v yourself. Although i was on the table so ive worked out who the oppo is - probably reflects my reply tbh. Id imagine our opponent will know your capable of floating. 

I think we can defo raise. I maybe go to £20 - is that too much?

rancid

If you think oppo is thick then raise )

so yeah raise..... !!

DOHHHHHHH

Thnx for replies so far. Hope this thread hasn't died though....

Not often u get such contrasting replies from 2 sick players.

Thnx Don & Geldy.

Beaneh and Offshoot too

Still non the wiser

DOHHHHHHH

Meh, looks like it has died then. 

I did just flat in the end, and vil had flopped 3 7s. Might be a case of the wrong play at the right time. 

ty for posts. 

GELDY

thanks for the result

but that is always the problem with slow playing - that you don´t get the info to know whether you are good or not - but you know that!

sighcall

snap river. dont slow play against a spewer.