AA Loses Again! any advice

NannaShe

Is there any way to get away from this as were HU

Hand History #642854013 (00:03 12/04/2013)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
NannaShe	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£14.53
Viliain	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£15.22
	Your hole cards	A A
NannaShe	Raise		£0.20	£0.32	£14.33
Viliain	Call		£0.16	£0.48	£15.06
Flop
		10 5 7
Viliain	Check
NannaShe	Bet		£0.36	£0.84	£13.97
Viliain	Call		£0.36	£1.20	£14.70
Turn
		8
Viliain	Check
NannaShe	Bet		£0.90	£2.10	£13.07
Viliain	Raise		£3.15	£5.25	£11.55
NannaShe	Call		£2.25	£7.50	£10.82
River
		K
Viliain	Bet		£5.63	£13.13	£5.92
NannaShe	Call		£5.63	£18.76	£5.19
Viliain	Show	7 10
NannaShe	Show	A A
Viliain	Win	Two Pairs, 10s and 7s	£18.06		£23.98

devonfish5

always remember AA is 1 pair,the same as 22 or 33.
the only thing we are ever beating with them is a lower 1 pair.
you played hand perfect up untill the turn,where you get re-raised.that should have sent alarm bells ringing and you are probably beat here.(you have invested £1.60 up untill this point).that should be the end of the hand for you.
you then call the extra £2.25 off.
the villian has ch flop and ch/raised turn.
now he's betting £5.63 on river too,why? (is he likely to be doing this with just 1 pair?would you?  no)

it's never easy laying down big pairs but i have found out the hard way myself,you have to when real strength is being shown against you,as here.(unless you think it's an out and out bluff)
if villain had simply called your turn bet,then you bet again on river and he called again,ie;slow playing his 2 pair then that's unlucky. (make a note..slow plays 2 pairs) for next time.

the clues are normally in the betting somewhere.you have to be aware of them when they come up and then act accordingly to them,easier said than done though.
saying that no one's perfect,we all make mistakes,i make plenty.but..with practise making less will help to save you money long term.
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robbie1992

when the turn gets raised its hard to think ur good, straight got there and theres plenty of 2 pair combos aswell that are on there board......also we beat a draw and one pair, do you think opponent, from the reads you got , would play the turn like this with draws/ top pair....its too unlikely to be a +ev move long term

But rest of hand you played well, GG

ClintonH83

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
TINTIN	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.95
ClintonH83	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£6.23
billy19514	Sit out
	Your hole cards	A A
aquajim	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.74
LoveChops	Fold
CatNip	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£3.23
TINTIN	Raise		£0.28	£0.42	£3.67
ClintonH83	Raise		£0.78	£1.20	£5.45
aquajim	Call		£0.78	£1.98	£2.96
CatNip	Fold
TINTIN	Fold
Flop
		6 10 J
ClintonH83	Bet		£1.98	£3.96	£3.47
aquajim	Call		£1.98	£5.94	£0.98
Turn
		6
ClintonH83	Bet		£2.97	£8.91	£0.50
aquajim	All-in		£0.98	£9.89	£0.00
ClintonH83	Unmatched bet		£1.99	£7.90	£2.49
ClintonH83	Show	A A
aquajim	Show	Q 9
River
		8
aquajim	Win	Straight to the Queen	£7.30		£7.30

Do what i do... have a moan, call everyone an IDIOT, kick the Cat, have an hour off and crack on!!!!!

sighcall

In Response to AA Loses Again! any advice:

Is there any way to get away from this as were HU Hand History #642854013 (00:03 12/04/2013) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance NannaShe Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £14.53 Viliain Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £15.22   Your hole cards A A       NannaShe Raise   £0.20 £0.32 £14.33 Viliain Call   £0.16 £0.48 £15.06 Flop     10 5 7       Viliain Check         NannaShe Bet   £0.36 £0.84 £13.97 Viliain Call   £0.36 £1.20 £14.70 Turn     8       Viliain Check         NannaShe Bet   £0.90 £2.10 £13.07 Viliain Raise   £3.15 £5.25 £11.55 NannaShe Call   £2.25 £7.50 £10.82 River     K       Viliain Bet   £5.63 £13.13 £5.92 NannaShe Call   £5.63 £18.76 £5.19 Viliain Show 7 10       NannaShe Show A A       Viliain Win Two Pairs, 10s and 7s £18.06   £23.98
Posted by NannaShe

What Dev said.

What has he got here that you beat on such a scary board?

NannaShe

In Response to Re: AA Loses Again! any advice:

when the turn gets raised its hard to think ur good, straight got there and theres plenty of 2 pair combos aswell that are on there board......also we beat a draw and one pair, do you think opponent, from the reads you got , would play the turn like this with draws/ top pair....its too unlikely to be a +ev move long term But rest of hand you played well, GG
Posted by robbie1992

I only just sat down with him but when i flopped top set and he had top pair he played it exact same as he does here thats why i thought i was good + its HU

The_Don90

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In Response to Re: AA Loses Again! any advice : I only just sat down with him but when i flopped top set and he had top pair he played it exact same as he does here thats why i thought i was good + its HU
Posted by NannaShe

this board is connecting and wet, with this read i may go broke sometimes. on this board im spewing tho 

devonfish5

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Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance TINTIN Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £3.95 ClintonH83 Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £6.23 billy19514 Sit out           Your hole cards A A       aquajim Call   £0.04 £0.10 £3.74 LoveChops Fold         CatNip Call   £0.04 £0.14 £3.23 TINTIN Raise   £0.28 £0.42 £3.67 ClintonH83 Raise   £0.78 £1.20 £5.45 aquajim Call   £0.78 £1.98 £2.96 CatNip Fold         TINTIN Fold         Flop     6 10 J       ClintonH83 Bet   £1.98 £3.96 £3.47 aquajim Call   £1.98 £5.94 £0.98 Turn     6       ClintonH83 Bet   £2.97 £8.91 £0.50 aquajim All-in   £0.98 £9.89 £0.00 ClintonH83 Unmatched bet   £1.99 £7.90 £2.49 ClintonH83 Show A A       aquajim Show Q 9       River     8       aquajim Win Straight to the Queen £7.30   £7.30 Do what i do... have a moan, call everyone an IDIOT, kick the Cat, have an hour off and crack on!!!!!
Posted by ClintonH83

'i know the feeling clinton'
had a number of these type of hands y'day.
not a great deal you can do is there when opponents are happy playing to draws.
i've a lovely old fluffy white cat called 'tilley'
she usually sleeps by my feet on my big soft blanket that keeps up both warm when i'm playing poker.
i do sometimes forget she's there,and i am reminded every so often by her snoring  lol
does get on me nerves a bit sometimes...
but as i snore myself....'what can you do?'  lol

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dev

devonfish5

here's another one....lol

n	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
slackalice	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£5.86
y	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.63
blufmeistr	Big blind		£0.04	£0.10	£3.42
	Your hole cards	A A
devonfish5	Raise		£0.12	£0.22	£3.86
blufmeistr	Call		£0.08	£0.30	£3.34
TaxiMan491	Fold
slackalice	Fold
y	All-in		£3.63	£3.93	£0.00
devonfish5	All-in		£3.86	£7.79	£0.00
blufmeistr	Fold
devonfish5	Unmatched bet		£0.31	£7.48	£0.31
y	Show	K A
devonfish5	Show	A A
Flop
		7 5 K
Turn
		K
River
		6
yyyyyyyyyy?	Win	Three Kings	£6.93		£6.93

robbie1992

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here's another one....lol n Cards Amount Pot Balance slackalice Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £5.86  y Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £3.63 blufmeistr Big blind   £0.04 £0.10 £3.42   Your hole cards A A       devonfish5 Raise   £0.12 £0.22 £3.86 blufmeistr Call   £0.08 £0.30 £3.34 TaxiMan491 Fold         slackalice Fold          y All-in   £3.63 £3.93 £0.00 devonfish5 All-in   £3.86 £7.79 £0.00 blufmeistr Fold         devonfish5 Unmatched bet   £0.31 £7.48 £0.31 y  Show K A       devonfish5 Show A A       Flop     7 5 K       Turn     K       River     6       yyyyyyyyyy?  Win Three Kings £6.93   £6.93
Posted by devonfish5

thats disgusting

1281

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Is there any way to get away from this as were HU Hand History #642854013 (00:03 12/04/2013) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance NannaShe Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £14.53 Viliain Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £15.22   Your hole cards A A       NannaShe Raise   £0.20 £0.32 £14.33 Viliain Call   £0.16 £0.48 £15.06 Flop     10 5 7       Viliain Check         NannaShe Bet   £0.36 £0.84 £13.97 Viliain Call   £0.36 £1.20 £14.70 Turn     8       Viliain Check         NannaShe Bet   £0.90 £2.10 £13.07 Viliain Raise   £3.15 £5.25 £11.55 NannaShe Call   £2.25 £7.50 £10.82 River     K       Viliain Bet   £5.63 £13.13 £5.92 NannaShe Call   £5.63 £18.76 £5.19 Viliain Show 7 10       NannaShe Show A A       Viliain Win Two Pairs, 10s and 7s £18.06   £23.98
Posted by NannaShe

hi posted "so frustrating" in this section,,, similar story
i know know one has a god given right to win with AA but this doesn't stop it hurting!!!