£11 Turbo ME - Exit Hand

Lambert180

I dunno if this is just standard, like individually each stage of the hand seems fairly standard but I'm just not sure.

I just flat pre here, sometimes I'll 3b, sometimes might even consider folding, but I flat here, think that's fine.

Could flat flop I guess but think I still get value from tons of draws and Tx hands and shouldn't be behind very often. I think c/r/folding this flop would be really bad cos he can still have loads of hands I beat (I think).

Did I put myself in a situation where I do have to get it in but maybe didn't need to put myself in that situation in the first place. I.E. can we ever donk flop or C/C or what?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Lambert180	Small blind		15.00	15.00	1680.00
riverrick	Big blind		30.00	45.00	2365.00
	Your hole cards	10 A
paul428	Fold
alexpm	Raise		60.00	105.00	1750.00
Mizroe	Fold
subsnw	Fold
Lambert180	Call		45.00	150.00	1635.00
riverrick	Call		30.00	180.00	2335.00
Flop
		8 4 10
Lambert180	Check
riverrick	Check
alexpm	Bet		135.00	315.00	1615.00
Lambert180	Raise		299.00	614.00	1336.00
riverrick	Fold
alexpm	All-in		1615.00	2229.00	0.00
Lambert180	All-in		1336.00	3565.00	0.00
alexpm	Unmatched bet		115.00	3450.00	115.00
Lambert180	Show	10 A

NannaShe

I think id be raise folding here

GELDY

you could donk out - TPTK with draws to guard against - adds some variety

c/r - your raise size is a bit weak - i would have made it nearer 400

his shove would then indicate real strength, with a good drawing hand the worst you are likely to see - more likely overpairs or sets - and i think i'd then be able to find a fold

and i know it's a turbo but you don't need to commit your stack so early in the tourny on what isn't a great hand

Lambert180

Yeah my raise size is on the wierd/funky/small side, I'd normally only go to about 320 though.

I just felt like it was so bad to raise/fold this flop here, I dunno.

Wilhelm

I wouldn't call pre, I'd raise or fold.  Its a really difficult hand to play out of position if we call.  Having hit the flop I much prefer c/c with the intention of calling down or folding the turn (read dependant).

Edit: If we are on btn I prefer calling pre

bearlyther

In Response to Re: £11 Turbo ME - Exit Hand:

I wouldn't call pre, I'd raise or fold.  Its a really difficult hand to play out of position if we call.  Having hit the flop I much prefer c/c with the intention of calling down or folding the turn (read dependant). Edit: If we are on btn I prefer calling pre
Posted by Wilhelm

dont like 3 betting at all here your turning your hand into a bluff and what are you hoping to achieve by 3 betting? You are just turning your hand into a bluff and inflating the pot oop when he calls.  Call flop aswell take it through the streets but you were raising flop for value so even tho your going to be crushed a lot of the time you have to get it in otherwise by raising flop you were bluffing.  Doesnt make much sense to raise flop and fold to his jam as that means we were bluffing on the flop.

GREGHOGG

Just play it passive 

Call pre is fine...

Just C/C flop then play it by ear. 

No real need to go broke at all.

Lambert180

Cheers chaps.

He had AA obv

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: £11 Turbo ME - Exit Hand:

In Response to Re: £11 Turbo ME - Exit Hand : dont like 3 betting at all here your turning your hand into a bluff and what are you hoping to achieve by 3 betting? You are just turning your hand into a bluff and inflating the pot oop when he calls.  Call flop aswell take it through the streets but you were raising flop for value so even tho your going to be crushed a lot of the time you have to get it in otherwise by raising flop you were bluffing.  Doesnt make much sense to raise flop and fold to his jam as that means we were bluffing on the flop.
Posted by bearlyther

Yes, you would be turning your hand into a bluff.  We can get him to fold now or we can get him to fold on later streets by taking the betting lead.  I would probably just fold though.  AT is really overrated imo.