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40 nl intresting spot is this a call on the turn

Im pretty confident my ace and queen are live here and all my hearts to hit a donk lead shove on the turn just cannot have a 3 imo even if they have 10 still think i have great odds for the call thoughts ? dre136Small blind £0.20£0.20£56.63moomin13Big blind £0.40£0.60£38.13 Your hole cardsAQ   RosieBDACall £0.40£1.00£20.11IDONKCALLURaise £1.60£2.60£39.45goodgirlukFold    RogueCellCall £1.60£4.20£106.15dre136Fold    moomin13Fold    RosieBDACall £1.20£5.40£18.91Flop  3510   RosieBDACheck    IDONKCALLUBet £3.60£9.00£35.85RogueCellFold    RosieBDACall £3.60£12.60£15.31Turn  3   RosieBDAAll-in £15.31£27.91£0.00

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  • edited April 2013
    You have to call.
  • edited April 2013
    But, I know nothing.
  • edited April 2013

    It is totally idiotic if you don't call, esp given stacks.  If this is obvious to even me, then why the fe ck are you posting this?  Every day of the week and twice on Sundays blah blah.

  • edited April 2013
    Apparently fe ck is an offensive word.  Who knew?
  • edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: 40 nl intresting spot is this a call on the turn:

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

       3,564  games     0.001 secs     3,564,000  games/sec

    Board: Tc 5h 3h 3d
    Dead:  

    equity win tie      pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 29.966%   29.97% 00.00%          1068        0.00   { AhQh }
    Hand 1: 70.034%   70.03% 00.00%          2496        0.00   { JJ+, ATs, A3s, KhJh, KTs, Kh9h, QTs, JTs, T9s, 9h8h, ATo, A3o, KTo, QTo, JTo, T9o }


    ---

       2,244  games     0.000 secs   448,800  games/sec

    Board: Tc 5h 3h 3d
    Dead:  

    equity win tie      pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 30.749%   30.75% 00.00%           690        0.00   { AhQh }
    Hand 1: 69.251%   69.25% 00.00%          1554        0.00   { ATs, A3s, KhJh, KTs, Kh9h, QTs, JTs, 9h8h, ATo, A3o, KTo, QTo, JTo }


    ---

  • edited April 2013
    Yeah as per above, would be a bad call imo.

    Download stove Donk
  • edited April 2013
    is this going to be a hero call with A high? i think you called and they had some random flush draw. Doesnt really make sense their line seems very bluffy. Id probablly bet a little more on the flop then if they check you can ship it on the turn and put them to a tough decision.
  • edited April 2013
    i would be surprised if they had anything.
  • edited April 2013
    In Response to Re: 40 nl intresting spot is this a call on the turn:
    In Response to Re: 40 nl intresting spot is this a call on the turn : Text results appended to pokerstove.txt    3,564  games     0.001 secs     3,564,000  games/sec Board: Tc 5h 3h 3d Dead:   equity win tie      pots won pots tied Hand 0: 29.966%   29.97% 00.00%          1068        0.00   { AhQh } Hand 1: 70.034%   70.03% 00.00%          2496        0.00   { JJ+, ATs, A3s, KhJh, KTs, Kh9h, QTs, JTs, T9s, 9h8h, ATo, A3o, KTo, QTo, JTo, T9o } ---    2,244  games     0.000 secs   448,800  games/sec Board: Tc 5h 3h 3d Dead:   equity win tie      pots won pots tied Hand 0: 30.749%   30.75% 00.00%           690        0.00   { AhQh } Hand 1: 69.251%   69.25% 00.00%          1554        0.00   { ATs, A3s, KhJh, KTs, Kh9h, QTs, JTs, 9h8h, ATo, A3o, KTo, QTo, JTo } --- Pretty easy fold, calling ~£15 to win £28 so you need 53.5%, which you dont have
    Posted by CoxyLboro
    surely we need like ~35%, you never need />50% to make a call as you can never be getting worse than 1:1

    (ignoring chop situations)
  • edited April 2013
    so would u call matt ?
  • edited April 2013
    id fold unless i think we have the best hand a fair amount of the time
  • edited April 2013
    Do ya feel lucky Donk? Well do ya? Hell no!  ;-)
  • edited April 2013
    call it everythings won on the river on sky so you never know your luck
  • edited May 2013
    35.42% equity needed to call

    ~31.5% if we give him a non-dominated TP (i.e. JT, KT, T9 etc)

    I think I sigh-call, just because for the times he's randomly spaz-jamming draws here, we have him absolutely smashed to the moon and back. Although it does feel an AWFUL lot like TP trying to fade hearts and therefore 'donk-jamming' a safe turn for his hand. Sure, we could be absolutely dead, but a donkalicious XXhh, or 46s make up for it imo.

    Plus, given the fact you posted this, I can only assume you're not awfully familiar with the player, otherwise you wouldn't be asking for advice on such a borderline math-based call/fold. So, given the fact that we get to know what line he takes with... well, whatever he shows up with here, the money we earn from using that information to our advantage ASAP in similar spots (instead of just having to wait for the nuts here to snap him off to see what he has) pushes me over the edge. I call, and I prolly don't think twice about it, even if he shows me 55 or something redic.

    Stove is our friend :)
    Word on the street it's unavailable online now though, so try and get it off someone else who already has it on their PC/Mac.
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