Shove the flop? Butchered hand

LARSON7

This is a hand against dev,

I flopped the world and just call the flop, which must be terrible haha

I guess i have to ship the flop? I have 20 million outs

chipretze	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£4.18
westslay23	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£3.69
	Your hole cards	3 A
Cash_Daddy	Fold
devonfish5	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£10.04
sportycus	Fold
LARSON7	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£7.55
chipretze	Call		£0.25	£1.00	£3.93
westslay23	Fold
Flop
		3 4 Q
chipretze	Check
devonfish5	Bet		£0.90	£1.90	£9.14
LARSON7	Call		£0.90	£2.80	£6.65
chipretze	Call		£0.90	£3.70	£3.03
Turn
		10
chipretze	Check
devonfish5	Bet		£3.70	£7.40	£5.44
LARSON7	Fold
chipretze	Fold
devonfish5	Muck
devonfish5	Win		£3.42		£8.86
devonfish5	Return		£3.70

Wilhelm

I would never shove the flop, but definitely raise with the intention of getting it in.  We can get them to fold or we can get it in with a lot of equity, probably as a slight favourite.

liamboi11

I raise his bet on flop to around £2.40-£3 and get it in on flop you but as played yeah gotta fold turn

grantorino

Yeh prob raise esp given the bet sizing. Don't mind flatting the flop sometimes if villain uses smaller sizing

10NGY

Fold pre! 

grantorino

In Response to Re: Shove the flop? Butchered hand:

Fold pre! 
Posted by 10NGY

Not this deep ip imo. 3b would be fine though

10NGY

78 bigs? How is that deep?

grantorino

In Response to Re: Shove the flop? Butchered hand:

78 bigs? How is that deep?
Posted by 10NGY

Sorry, misread , thought hero was 200bb deep at 4nl for some reason

Yeah I like folding pre too. 3b>flat imo

BorinLoner

Pull up for the maximum.

Leaving this player's alias in would affect my advice, so I'm not going to say anything specific.

Think about the villain's range pre-flop and on the flop for doing what he's done and ask yourself: "If I make this play 10,000 times will I win more money than I lose?"

percival09

raise flop. looks way stronger too with a player behind 

as played nice fold ott

percival09

also remove names and take out results erjopfje

rancid

If you think u can get some folds than raise
you have not got as much equity as you think
all depends on what you think about oppo sizing
calling />raising
then again depends if spade comes on turn how you think oppo reacts to this with lead and also how oppo peceives you
apart from that don't over value your hands without good reason