MTT Help

LARSON7

Hey!

I'm going to start playing a few more lower stakes MTTs, where as i've been mainly playing cash recently.

Just wondering if anyone would be able to help me out with this, provide some feedback/ look at some hands to help me improve . I could post hands up at various different stages of tournies, or whatever you felt was the most beneficial way of doing this.

If you would like to help me out, please send me a message or leave a post on here.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks:D 

IDONKCALLU

if u post hands in the clinic i could help u m8 

my advice is patient early stages u cant win a mtt in early stages but u can sure lose it just play tight early stages n then open ya game abit mid to late stages raise unopened pots etc blind steal and play pots in position rather then out of position so much easier to play 

DOHHHHHHH

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if u post hands in the clinic i could help u m8  my advice is patient early stages u cant win a mtt in early stages but u can sure lose it just play tight early stages n then open ya game abit mid to late stages raise unopened pots etc blind steal and play pots in position rather then out of position so much easier to play 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

Make sure you explain why it's a bad idea to start a hand with 15xbb, end it with 5xbb, and not get to showdown inbetween

Wally!



IDONKCALLU Small blind 3000.00 3000.00 87380.78
kelsey01 Big blind 6000.00 9000.00 120462.72
Your hole cards
A
5

AK57 Fold
IDONKCALLU Raise 12000.00 21000.00 75380.78
kelsey01 Call 9000.00 30000.00 111462.72
Flop

8
Q
7

IDONKCALLU Bet 18000.00 48000.00 57380.78
kelsey01 Call 18000.00 66000.00 93462.72
Turn

K

IDONKCALLU Bet 30000.00 96000.00 27380.78
kelsey01 All-in 93462.72 189462.72 0.00
IDONKCALLU Fold

IDONKCALLU

lool here we go  

i made a mistake n get slated 

MP33

1 thing i would say if your just starting on MTT,s don,t play to many. Spend time watching the other players (bet sizing etc) esp when your not in the hand ( you could be on same table for a while )and try and play each player on what information youve gained on that player. It should also make your game more unpredictable -GL.  P

Ps Keep an eye on chipstacks 

wayne1958

my advice is dont abuse people at the table its not nice.......

DOHHHHHHH

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lool here we go   i made a mistake n get slated 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

haha ofc. can't let you forget it in a hurry can I!

Get your graph out !

bbMike

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In Response to Re: MTT Help : Make sure you explain why it's a bad idea to start a hand with 15xbb, end it with 5xbb, and not get to showdown inbetween Wally! IDONKCALLU Small blind 3000.00 3000.00 87380.78 kelsey01 Big blind 6000. 00 9000.00 120462.72 Your hole cards A 5 AK57 Fold IDONKCALLU Raise 12000.00 21000.00 75380.78 kelsey01 Call 9000.00 30000.00 111462.72 Flop 8 Q 7 IDONKCALLU Bet 18000.00 48000.00 57380.78 kelsey01 Call 18000.00 66000.00 93462.72 Turn K IDONKCALLU Bet 30000.00 96000.00 27380.78 kelsey01 All-in 93462.72 189462.72 0.00 IDONKCALLU Fold
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Is this from the FT that IDCU described as "all-in or fold" in another thread...??!! ;-)

LARSON7

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if u post hands in the clinic i could help u m8  my advice is patient early stages u cant win a mtt in early stages but u can sure lose it just play tight early stages n then open ya game abit mid to late stages raise unopened pots etc blind steal and play pots in position rather then out of position so much easier to play 
Posted by IDONKCALLU

Hey Donk,

That would be brilliant mate, I don't know if there's much point in posting hands in isolation?

Maybe post up 5-10 crucial hands to get some feedback/ how I played them and any mistakes made?

I'll post some up tonight, if I play a MTT, if i'm about tonight i'll give one a go.

IDONKCALLU

just post em up n when i get time i give u some feed back on each hand dnt post any hand up just the 1s u find yaself in tricky spots 

LARSON7

I will do mate, it'll only be interesting hands/ crucial hands.

I'm in a satelite for the mini tonight, if i dont qualify from that i might buy in directly. I'm gonna enter the 1 quid deepstack 2 2night.

IDONKCALLU

good luck im also in the main n mini 2nite run good 

LARSON7

Just got knocked out of the mini, 1 bounty lol I know i'll get slated for this hand, but i honestly didn't think he had much bit surprised at the call

dannyboy3	Small blind		100.00	100.00	4010.00
LARSON7	Big blind		200.00	300.00	3840.00
	Your hole cards	A Q
cowhead	Fold
TKING25	Fold
z	Raise		400.00	700.00	3815.00
DOUBLESNO7	Fold
dannyboy3	Fold
LARSON7	Call		200.00	900.00	3640.00
Flop
		7 5 10
LARSON7	Check
z	Bet		450.00	1350.00	3365.00
LARSON7	Raise		900.00	2250.00	2740.00
z	Call		450.00	2700.00	2915.00
Turn
		4
LARSON7	All-in		2740.00	5440.00	0.00
z	Call		2740.00	8180.00	175.00
LARSON7	Show	A Q
z	Show	3 3
River
		10
z	Win	Two Pairs, 10s and 3s

DOHHHHHHH

What made you think he didn't 'have much' ?

You take a vvvvv strong line on the flop, and he still calls, what do u think he has?

Just shove pre!

LARSON7

Really? Even with 20 bigs?

I don't know, it didn't take a lot for him to raise from previous hands.

If i 3 bet it to pre 2 900, and he shoves? Can i ever fold here?

LARSON7

Plus i hada really tight image lol but a really good call in the end,

IDONKCALLU

geeeeeeeeez hate the way u played this hand 

1st of a q is a great hand 3 bet to around 1.2k and c-bet the flop 

way u playe it just fold the flop why are u raising the flop ?  obv bluffing just hate it

mattless

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Really? Even with 20 bigs? I don't know, it didn't take a lot for him to raise from previous hands. If i 3 bet it to pre 2 900, and he shoves? Can i ever fold here?
Posted by LARSON7

like dohh says shove is fine, if you 3 bet to 900-1200, you are never folding and nor should you. You have aq and 20bbs getting it in pre is fine

GREGHOGG

The AQ hand is a pretty standard reship pre

LARSON7

Cheers dohhhh and mattless

Yeah donk, i was just turning my hand into a bluff, a min raise normally looks super strong, I was always shoving the turn, but yeah i should have raised pre or shipped it, that's where i'm not good at Mtts sitting with 20-25 bigs, it's easier with 10-15 just shove or fold.

BorinLoner

A min-raise pre-flop is not super-strong. A min-raise at this stage of the tournament is standard.

If you mean post-flop; while a good player might see it as super-strong, most players just see it as really cheap and don't like folding to a small raise. If you're going to raise post-flop after you've missed, why not 3-bet pre-flop when there's a good chance you have the best hand?

LARSON7

I meant min raise post flop lol

Yep, i should have just shipped it like others have said, or 3 bet it.

The reason i dont want 2 3 bet, i'm out of position, and if i miss the flop it's really hard to play.

The reason i didn't ship was because i'm thinking it's most times a flip or im dominated, if it's a flip do i want to be racing for my tournament life? I know in tournies u need to take flips at some point.

I guess this logic above is wrong for the simple reason, most times, we are getting a fold here. And even if we are called we have decent equity in the hand

LARSON7

Played 3 MTTs 2 night, i got really unlucky in the deep stack tournie, pocket 10s against a maniac who was shoving every hand, called with 10s, against q 9 and he rivers a queen!

This is my exit hand from BH Game, i was playing quite well, flopped a set of aces, all in on turn and he hits a gut shot on river, sick!

TRAG	Small blind		150.00	150.00	26295.00
LARSON7	Big blind		300.00	450.00	6172.00
	Your hole cards	A A
YOYOYO209	Fold
john343	Fold
BillyWiz68	Fold
Amycakes	Raise		900.00	1350.00	20100.00
TRAG	Fold
LARSON7	Raise		2400.00	3750.00	3772.00
Amycakes	Call		1800.00	5550.00	18300.00
Flop
		6 8 A
LARSON7	Check
Amycakes	Check
Turn
		5
LARSON7	All-in		3772.00	9322.00	0.00
Amycakes	Call		3772.00	13094.00	14528.00
LARSON7	Show	A A
Amycakes	Show	9 9
River
		7
Amycakes	Win	Straight to the 9	13094.