PTP tonight - Omaha Cash!

Tikay10

Tonight, it is my "official" PTP evening, & I'll be playing Omaha (High Only) cash.

I'll start at 5p-10p, & try to get several tables open.

The suits suggested I then move up to 10p-20p, & eventually 25p-50p. I ALWAYS do as I'm told, of course, but if there is plenty of fun & action  at 5p-10p, I might forget to move up until well into the evening. Mum's the word, right?

I'm going to try & start just before 6pm, so the first hour will coincide with HAPPY HOUR.
 
See you later, I hope, & if it's half as much fun as last night, we'll be OK.   

pomfrittes

  Hi TK, could you check something please.  There is supposed to be a PLO8 mtt at b1930 this evening 

  organised by Sky |Joe but is not showing in lobby.  Thanks in anticipation,

Tikay10

Hi Pommy,

Seems to be there now.

Good luck.

Tikay10

PTP Omaha starts in 25 minutes.

The 5p-10p Tables are already packed. Ish.

Janana

Im terrible at cash being a sole mtt guy and worse at Omaha given how little ive played it, much prefer PLO8 but may jump on a bit later, going to play that tourney 1930, will be fun. Hopefully soon everyday will have this much plo8 action.

Last night was fun tikay I was over the moon to make 2/3 final tables, even tho I bubbled 1 in 4th I made a min cash so basically had over 3 hours of fun for a XXp loss lol

Tikay10

In Response to Re: PTP tonight - Omaha Cash!:

Im terrible at cash being a sole mtt guy and worse at Omaha given how little ive played it, much prefer PLO8 but may jump on a bit later, going to play that tourney 1930, will be fun. Hopefully soon everyday will have this much plo8 action. Last night was fun tikay I was over the moon to make 2/3 final tables, even tho I bubbled 1 in 4th I made a min cash so basically had over 3 hours of fun for a XXp loss lol
Posted by Janana

pomfrittes

In Response to Re: PTP tonight - Omaha Cash!:

Hi Pommy, Seems to be there now. Good luck.
Posted by Tikay10

  Thank you Sir.  x2.

Slykllist

Great fun tonight, I really enjoyed it even if I do bet light "SO much"

Hope that you can do this more often and that you can increase the interest in Omaha.

A couple of hands I mentioned in chat that put me in tough spots, any advice greatly appreciated (usually the advice I receive is fold pre!)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DEL560	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£13.48
Slykllist	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£7.58
	Your hole cards	8 7 4 9
1-on-u	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£3.35
Giant811	Fold
lee100	Fold
Tikay10	Call		£0.10	£0.35	£19.75
DEL560	Call		£0.05	£0.40	£13.43
Slykllist	Check
Flop
		8 6 9
DEL560	Check
Slykllist	Bet		£0.40	£0.80	£7.18
1-on-u	Fold
Tikay10	Call		£0.40	£1.20	£19.35
DEL560	Raise		£1.20	£2.40	£12.23
Slykllist	Call		£0.80	£3.20	£6.38
Tikay10	Call		£0.80	£4.00	£18.55
Turn
		2
DEL560	Bet		£1.40	£5.40	£10.83
Slykllist	Call		£1.40	£6.80	£4.98
Tikay10	Call		£1.40	£8.20	£17.15
River
		4
DEL560	Check
Slykllist	Check
Tikay10	Check
DEL560	Show	10 5 J 7
Slykllist	Muck	8 7 4 9
Tikay10	Show	Q J 9 8
Tikay10	Win	Flush to the Queen	£7.58		£24.73

Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
woolycully	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£8.51
Tikay10	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£12.29
	Your hole cards	5 3 Q A
Giant811	Fold
weejenny19	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£3.57
Slykllist	Raise		£0.30	£0.55	£10.49
1-on-u	Fold
woolycully	Fold
Tikay10	Call		£0.20	£0.75	£12.09
weejenny19	Call		£0.20	£0.95	£3.37
Flop
		3 3 9
Tikay10	Check
weejenny19	Check
Slykllist	Bet		£0.50	£1.45	£9.99
Tikay10	Call		£0.50	£1.95	£11.59
weejenny19	Call		£0.50	£2.45	£2.87
Turn
		10
Tikay10	Check
weejenny19	Check
Slykllist	Check
River
		6
Tikay10	Bet		£1.33	£3.78	£10.26
weejenny19	Fold
Slykllist	Call		£1.33	£5.11	£8.66
Tikay10	Show	9 3 7 10
Slykllist	Muck	5 3 Q A
Tikay10	Win	Full House, 3s and 10s	£4.72		£14.98

Slykllist

Also, I took a bit of stick (all friendly banter you understand) for this one, particularly as I even called his hand before making the sigh call on the river.  Should this always be a fold given the fact I have a straight, I also have 2 pair so a few outs to the FH, plus my image wasn't exactly rock solid and the oppo was playing short stacked.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
woolycully	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£6.57
Tikay10	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£16.77
	Your hole cards	J 9 8 7
Giant811	Fold
Talon	Fold
Slykllist	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£11.50
1-on-u	Call		£0.10	£0.35	£3.43
woolycully	Call		£0.05	£0.40	£6.52
Tikay10	Check
Flop
		10 J 5
woolycully	Check
Tikay10	Check
Slykllist	Check
1-on-u	Bet		£0.30	£0.70	£3.13
woolycully	Fold
Tikay10	Call		£0.30	£1.00	£16.47
Slykllist	Call		£0.30	£1.30	£11.20
Turn
		9
Tikay10	Check
Slykllist	Bet		£0.98	£2.28	£10.22
1-on-u	All-in		£3.13	£5.41	£0.00
Tikay10	Fold
Slykllist	Call		£2.15	£7.56	£8.07
Slykllist	Show	J 9 8 7
1-on-u	Show	7 K Q 2
River
		9
Slykllist	Win	Full House, 9s and Jacks	£6.99		£15.06

TommyD

Sly, the last hand.  If I may use the internet standard of greater than to compare our options and what we should do.


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You are in awful shape so much here/practically always here, I would need to know the oppo was an absolute maniac or vastly over rated their holdings in PLO to do anything other than check/fold.

We all learn this when getting to grips with PLO, hand strength, board texture, oppos ranges with draws and skill level.

Nice bink though.

Tikay10

Morning Simon.

The FIRST TWO hands you posted.

Your straight draw (& top two) was in very bad shape there - you want NUT straight draws really, you were not drawing to the nuts. It is unlikely anyone with less than 2 pairs will pay you off, so you only get action from better hands. You were CRUSHED throughout, as I had the same "top two", BUT I had straight AND flush improvers with Js & Qs. I had so much equity in my hand I'm never folding "as played".

In the 2nd of those two hands, you did nothing wrong really, & I just got lucky. But beware paired boards where we have trips - someone almost always houses up in Omaha when the Board pairs, though on this occasion, you were just plum unlucky. My holding in that hand was pretty filthy, to be honest.
 
Which brings me to my "calling light" (tongue-in-cheek) comment.
 
In the 2nd hand, I should not even have been in the pot really with that bag of spanners (10-9-7-3 double suited), but, THIS IS THE KEY THING.......
 
When people post Hand Histories & ask for a view, it NEVER makes alllowance for "Table Dynamic". And Table Dynamic CHANGES EVERYTHING.
 
You were very aggro pre (which is fine), but once I'd sussed what you were up to, I can't keep folding every hand pre, so I'm going to look you up with some really mixed holdings. The habit of raising EVERY hand pre-flop is often eventually self-defeating.
 
I won a nice pot against EvilPingu (who I thought played superbly), again because of his bluffing frequency. There was a very odd hand between he & I where the board ran out.....

7-8-9-10-J

He had position, & I'd been check-calling him every street, because I was pretty sure he'd try to steal it with position. My hand was TERRIBLE - I had x-x-5-6 for the nut WORST straight, it is beating nothing but a bluff on that board. But I snap-called his river bet simply because of the Table Dynamic - he is ALWAYS going to try & nick that pot on that super-wet board. On the face of it, a terrible call by me, but once again, Table dynamic was the key. He was just so aggro & busy that we needed to widen our ranges considerably & turn his aggression against him. 

Anyway, it was great fun, & I hope you made a few bob & enjoyed it.

All being well, I hope to be on site tonight playing PLO8 DYM's & MTT's, if there are any. Maybe see you then.      

Slykllist

Thanks Tikay and Tommy for the comments, I'm definitely in the 'still learning' bracket when it comes to Omaha and probably a bit too much of my Holdem game spilling over into it but it's a game I want to play more of and am determined to improve.