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Hate this so much :(
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
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| robbie1992 | Small blind | £0.10 | £0.10 | £28.12 | |
| gibbzy | Big blind | £0.20 | £0.30 | £74.20 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| steve1602 | Fold | ||||
| AFCBrett | Fold | ||||
| taximania1 | Call | £0.20 | £0.50 | £18.68 | |
| robbie1992 | Raise | £0.80 | £1.30 | £27.32 | |
| gibbzy | Raise | £3.50 | £4.80 | £70.70 | |
| taximania1 | Fold | ||||
| robbie1992 | Raise | £7.60 | £12.40 | £19.72 | |
| gibbzy | All-in | £70.70 | £83.10 | £0.00 | |
| robbie1992 | All-in | £19.72 | £102.82 | £0.00 | |
| gibbzy | Unmatched bet | £46.18 | £56.64 | £46.18 | |
| robbie1992 | Show |
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| gibbzy | Show |
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| gibbzy | Win | Two Pairs, Aces and 6s | £54.84 | £101.02 | |
Comments
Probably just call the 4 bet, the size of the 4 bet looks really strong.
With the 6 bet all in, you serioussly can fold here, it looks so much like Aces or Kings.
Unless yu have reads otherwise.
At the end of the day AK is a strong starting hand, ideal in tournies for shoving later on. But at cash do we really want to be getting it all in pre, when most of the time we will be flipping?
What was actually being said was that you shouldn't 4-bet AK intending to fold unless you have very specific reads. When you 4-bet, it has to be because you think you can be called or 5-bet by worse. If you think you can't be called or 5-bet by worse, then don't 4-bet.
You also have to accept that sometimes your opponent will have the top of his range. If you believe that your opponent can 5-bet all-in with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK, AQ or AJ, then it's the right decision to 4-bet with AK pre-flop. Sometimes he's going to have AA or KK but it doesn't mean that your decision to get it in was wrong because you're making the right decision against his range.
If your opponent's range is much tighter for 5-betting all-in or calling the 4-bet, then 4-betting is bad. If he can only continue with AA, KK or QQ against that action, don't give him that action.
You're making the same mistake I've criticised you for before - Thinking only about the absolute value of your hand, not the relative value. Nobody has been saying to you "Always get AK all-in pre-flop" without providing any context to it. That would be dumb. It would be just as dumb to say "You can never get AK all-in pre-flop".
Against some players you can get AK all-in pre-flop for 100BB profitably. Against other players you can't. It's up to you to figure out which players belong in which column.
this is probably one of the few times AK could be worth making the fold.
the button could be holding quite a varity so when you do a raise it is probably heading toward KQ+ AJ+ A10s 99+.
when the BB then does a raise himself unless we have a note down that he is a fish or maniac the chances are we now just going to toss a coin because what he is most likely holding now is JJ+ or AKs maybe the outside chance of AQs but unlikely.
another positive you could have had from just calling preflop is with a board like the one above you could have semi- bluff yourself to win the hand if a Q hit the turn
The thoughts where i think i could be ahead off this villians range alot and if not im coin flipping.
Im oop so if i flat im gonna c/f alot, i wont be getting too fancy here.
would should i have been thinking?
only if oppo is like a PASSIVE nit can you consider folding or calling to the 3 bet
so you have to say ok you never raise this spot with 10'S/AQ/AJ
You can just fold v that sizing.
bvb it's harder coz you can level yourself but if he's honestly never light (3 betting to 18xbb suggests he isn't), or raising 99/TT/JJ/AQs/KQs for value, just let it go and lose 4xbb instead of 150xbb.
Don't like flatting. 4b for V or fold.