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Bet sizing

gazza127gazza127
edited June 2013 in The Poker Clinic
New tournament.... new villain.  Not really a hand to critique as such... more of an open ended question on what size people would be raising this up to with a limper and a raiser already in the pot.  I'll let you know what I did after some of you have had your say.

I have about 2k chips btw.
danny76503 Small blind   20.00 20.00 5993.33
XaviXace13 Big blind   40.00 60.00 1960.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
doolie Call   40.00 100.00 2150.00
oakley11 Raise   120.00 220.00 1445.00
lippy52 Fold        
gazza127 Raise   ?
  
      
      
      
      

      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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  • Lambert180Lambert180
    edited May 2013
    400
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573
    edited May 2013
    i personally make it 400
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573
    edited May 2013
    lambert beat me to it, il make it 399 then
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  • gazza127gazza127
    edited May 2013
    Oh good.
    danny76503 Small blind   20.00 20.00 5993.33
    XaviXace13 Big blind   40.00 60.00 1960.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    		     
    doolie Call   40.00 100.00 2150.00
    oakley11 Raise   120.00 220.00 1445.00
    lippy52 Fold        
    gazza127 Raise   400.00 620.00 1540.00
    danny76503 Fold        
    XaviXace13 Fold        
    doolie Call   360.00 980.00 1790.00
    oakley11 Call   280.00 1260.00 1165.00
    Flop
       
    • A
    • A
    • J
    		     
    doolie Check        
    oakley11 All-in   1165.00 2425.00 0.00
    gazza127 Fold        
    doolie Fold        
    oakley11 Muck        
    oakley11 Win   1260.00   1260.00
    oakley11 Return   1165.00 0.00 2425.00
    Was just wondering whether 400 was enough... pondered about 450/500... but no idea what the limper is thinking here calling a 3 bet with whatever hand he has.
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573
    edited May 2013
    i wouldnt be results orientated about it, u want him to call not fold so i think 400 is perfect
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  • gazza127gazza127
    edited May 2013
    Oh no im not being results orientated about it.  Id normally stick it to 400 ish but with the limper I was wondering if I should be adding on a little more?  I was thinking about this before the hideous flop turned up.
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573
    edited May 2013
    In Response to Re: Bet sizing:
    Oh no im not being results orientated about it.  Id normally stick it to 400 ish but with the limper I was wondering if I should be adding on a little more?  I was thinking about this before the hideous flop turned up.
    Posted by gazza127
    you did add on 40 didnt u to compensate the limper, i would normally make it 360 but because of the limp i ad his 40 on to make it 400, i dont think bet sizing is a major issue unless your larry1959 and your open 5 xing left right and centre
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited May 2013

    smaller imo.

    320ish total. Tops!  

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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited May 2013
    360 fine
    the 40 limp is irrelevant
    it's either atc so will fold
    or a slow played good hand which will call
    extra 40 here or there won't make much difference
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  • bigandy18bigandy18
    edited June 2013
    I'm going 360 to 400, 3x depeding onif you rate your postflop skill against the field or 400 for more of a chance of them to fold.
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  • percival09percival09
    edited June 2013
    320
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  • CraigSG1CraigSG1
    edited June 2013
    Im going 360. Limper irrelevant as im expection a fold almost 100% of the time from him. 

    Can we talk about the flop fold? Is he open jamming trip aces here? Or even a flopped FH to someone who has just 3 bet them very big pre? Why not try get an extra bet before jamming? I would love to know peoples thoughts as im probably sigh calling here. 

    Im not sure as its very confusing. Why push with such a strong hand but again why would he push with QQ, 1010, 99 etc - hands we are beating (or even sharing KK). I can see him here with QQ, KK and a suited KJ/QJ as much as he has the A. 
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr
    edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: Bet sizing:
    Im going 360. Limper irrelevant as im expection a fold almost 100% of the time from him.  Can we talk about the flop fold? Is he open jamming trip aces here? Or even a flopped FH to someone who has just 3 bet them very big pre? Why not try get an extra bet before jamming? I would love to know peoples thoughts as im probably sigh calling here.  Im not sure as its very confusing. Why push with such a strong hand but again why would he push with QQ, 1010, 99 etc - hands we are beating (or even sharing KK). I can see him here with QQ, KK and a suited KJ/QJ as much as he has the A. 
    Posted by CraigSG1
    He has less than a pot sized bet behind, so yeah he jams but it's not a huge overbet or anything. Stinks of A10 or similar. Might have even flopped it with AJ and wants paying off by AK/AQ.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2013
    360

    Is there ever an argument with UTG and HJ to call, see if UTG is slow playing. If he raises you may get all In v two players pre. As played flop is a bit grotty really as we really want an ace -free one. Personally I'd have raised myself mind.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2013
    Depends what level buy in is. If its quite a small buy in then raise to 350-450 for value off weaker players.

    Personnally I would go 300-350 though. Don't really hate the sizing though.
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