River decision, call 3 bet or 4 bet?

LARSON7

LARSON7 Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £3.96 jonah54 Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £3.26   Your hole cards 9 7	Fold
heptone	Fold
lonesome	Fold
Beaders10	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£4.15
LARSON7	Call		£0.02	£0.12	£3.94
jonah54	Check
Flop
		5 A 4
LARSON7	Check
jonah54	Check
Beaders10	Check
Turn
		8
LARSON7	Bet		£0.09	£0.21	£3.85
jonah54	Call		£0.09	£0.30	£3.17
Beaders10	Fold
River
		10
LARSON7	Bet		£0.23	£0.53	£3.62
jonah54	Raise		£0.68	£1.21	£2.49
LARSON7	?

hhyftrftdr

Ship it.

unknown_username

Yeah I tend to shrug my shoulders and then ship it. Its a limped pot so they could have anything.  There are a couple of straights out there, loads of 2 pairs he could be overvaluing. 

Happy to get it in at NL4. If its flush over flush then unlucky.

Lambert180

Ship it.

LARSON7

LARSON7	Raise		£1.28	£2.49	£2.34
jonah54	All-in		£2.49	£4.98	£0.00
LARSON7	All-in		£2.34

When i re raise, and oppo shoves, i want to fold. When he shoves pretty sure he has a flush, it is just is it a low enough flush that i can beat? I don't think i can.

I didn't fold i called. But wonder if this is a fold?

Lambert180

DONT click it back. How much of an idiot are you gonna feel when you click it back and he calls and turns of AT, 67 or w/e.

And you don't get in spots like that above ^^^. If it's flush over flush, unlucky, but you can get called by so many worse hands when you shove.

LARSON7

The flush just got in, it's a good player, he's never calling a shove with 2 pair. Not this player.

He had the nuts. When he shoves, 2 my reraise it's proba  fold. But again i had to see it.

calcalfold

Just call without notes imo. And make notes on what they had.

Limped pot means a very wide range.

Beating 4nl is very ABC, no need to ship the 5th nuts vs an unknown.

LARSON7

In Response to Re: River decision, call 3 bet or 4 bet?:

Just call without notes imo. And make notes on what they had. Limped pot means a very wide range. Beating 4nl is very ABC, no need to ship the 5th nuts vs an unknown.
Posted by calcalfold

I think you are right against a tightish player.

Prob just a call.

hhyftrftdr

Ship it.

percival09

good player @ 4nl [ ]

BorinLoner

In Response to Re: River decision, call 3 bet or 4 bet?:

good player @ 4nl [ ]
Posted by percival09

I play NL4 sometimes.

Point taken.

BorinLoner

Think about what he raises with and what he calls a river 3-bet with... Give as much information as possible on your opponents in future posts.

If you raise here it would be a 3-bet, btw. Bet, raise, 3-bet, 4-bet, etc. Just count the bets.

Pre-flop the first bet is the big blind, the next is the raise and the next is a 3-bet (re-raise).

unknown_username

In Response to Re: River decision, call 3 bet or 4 bet?:

The flush just got in, it's a good player, he's never calling a shove with 2 pair. Not this player. He had the nuts. When he shoves, 2 my reraise it's proba  fold. But again i had to see it.
Posted by LARSON7

Thats fairly key info you failed to mention in the opening post. 

If you have a read as solid as this then why post the hand? Its a fold if he ONLY does this with the nuts.

Against an unknown at nl4 its a really easy ship!