just overplayed??? or just cant fold

jdandcoke2

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
jdandcoke2	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£108.87
winner5603	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£122.79
	Your hole cards	A A
TimmyRaRa	Fold
jdandcoke2	Raise		£2.00	£3.50	£106.87
winner5603	Call		£1.50	£5.00	£121.29
Flop
		J 7 10
jdandcoke2	Bet		£3.75	£8.75	£103.12
winner5603	Raise		£7.50	£16.25	£113.79
jdandcoke2	Call		£3.75	£20.00	£99.37
Turn
		3
jdandcoke2	Check
winner5603	Bet		£20.00	£40.00	£93.79
jdandcoke2	Raise		£45.00	£85.00	£54.37
winner5603	All-in		£93.79	£178.79	£0.00
jdandcoke2	All-in		£54.37	£233.16	£0.00
winner5603	Unmatched bet		£14.42	£218.74	£14.42
jdandcoke2	Show	A A
winner5603	Show	10 J
River
		Q
winner5603	Win	Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s	£216.94		£231.36

jdandcoke2

In Response to just overplayed??? or just cant fold:

Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance jdandcoke2 Small blind   £0.50 £0.50 £108.87 winner5603 Big blind   £1.00 £1.50 £122.79   Your hole cards A A       TimmyRaRa Fold         jdandcoke2 Raise   £2.00 £3.50 £106.87 winner5603 Call   £1.50 £5.00 £121.29 Flop     J 7 10       jdandcoke2 Bet   £3.75 £8.75 £103.12 winner5603 Raise   £7.50 £16.25 £113.79 jdandcoke2 Call   £3.75 £20.00 £99.37 Turn     3       jdandcoke2 Check         winner5603 Bet   £20.00 £40.00 £93.79 jdandcoke2 Raise   £45.00 £85.00 £54.37 winner5603 All-in   £93.79 £178.79 £0.00 jdandcoke2 All-in   £54.37 £233.16 £0.00 winner5603 Unmatched bet   £14.42 £218.74 £14.42 jdandcoke2 Show A A       winner5603 Show 10 J       River     Q       winner5603 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s £216.94   £231.36
Posted by jdandcoke2

just 4 hands in so no info on players. 3players on table should this make a difference?

Lambert180

Definitely overplayed. Only playing 3 handed does mean people will (should) be playing a wider range because the blinds are coming through them a lot faster, there's no where to hide etc, it's not great if you just sit there 3 handed folding non stop waiting for hands that you'd consider strong in a 6max imo.

3x pre.

Don't mind calling the flop raise assuming we think he's capable of doing this with bluffs, draws or worse value hands (even though I hate that it's a clickback)

Mmm his line is VERY strong by the time we get to the turn, click back river, full pot turn, I think now is probably a good time to fold. If we don't fold though, there is definitely no way we should be raising because we just can't get called by worse.

Once he goes full pot, you virtually click it back, and he's still happy shipping over the top, it's 100% a fold. He can't even have the nut flush draw because we hold the Ac.

GELDY

+1 maybe I'll have to put you back in my team Paul

jdandcoke2

when i actually look at it i cant believe i played it so bad. i had just came from a table i was walking all over and took that invincible mentality with me . i know its a definate fold on turn . maybe in tourney i find the fold but cash i just dont . thanx for reply . will remember it next time im in the same situation . esp bet sizing. i get much more info for £35 instead of a buy in .In Response to Re: just overplayed??? or just cant fold:

Definitely overplayed. Only playing 3 handed does mean people will (should) be playing a wider range because the blinds are coming through them a lot faster, there's no where to hide etc, it's not great if you just sit there 3 handed folding non stop waiting for hands that you'd consider strong in a 6max imo. 3x pre. Don't mind calling the flop raise assuming we think he's capable of doing this with bluffs, draws or worse value hands (even though I hate that it's a clickback) Mmm his line is VERY strong by the time we get to the turn, click back river, full pot turn, I think now is probably a good time to fold. If we don't fold though, there is definitely no way we should be raising because we just can't get called by worse. Once he goes full pot, you virtually click it back, and he's still happy shipping over the top, it's 100% a fold.
Posted by Lambert180

rancid

depends what you think of oppo but I doubt anyone decent would be min raising air, FD's or Jx hands on flop and then betting pot on turn

by the same token min raising 2 prs/sets is just not great is it, IDK

does oppo min raise FD, tp's, air on flops ever ? if not you have your answer.

percival09

In Response to Re: just overplayed??? or just cant fold:

Definitely overplayed. Only playing 3 handed does mean people will (should) be playing a wider range because the blinds are coming through them a lot faster, there's no where to hide etc, it's not great if you just sit there 3 handed folding non stop waiting for hands that you'd consider strong in a 6max imo. 3x pre. Don't mind calling the flop raise assuming we think he's capable of doing this with bluffs, draws or worse value hands (even though I hate that it's a clickback) Mmm his line is VERY strong by the time we get to the turn, click back river, full pot turn, I think now is probably a good time to fold. If we don't fold though, there is definitely no way we should be raising because we just can't get called by worse. Once he goes full pot, you virtually click it back, and he's still happy shipping over the top, it's 100% a fold. He can't even have the nut flush draw because we hold the Ac.
Posted by Lambert180

Had to stop reading

already tilted me

sorry op will reply when not tilted

jdandcoke2

cheers just confirms what i thought . ie i didnt think just saw AA lol.
In Response to Re: just overplayed??? or just cant fold:

depends what you think of oppo but I doubt anyone decent would be min raising air, FD's or Jx hands on flop and then betting pot on turn by the same token min raising 2 prs/sets is just not great is it, IDK does oppo min raise FD, tp's, air on flops ever ? if not you have your answer.
Posted by rancid

calcalfold

Raise more pre.

The check raise on the turn pretty much means your toast.

jdandcoke2

totally agreed
In Response to Re: just overplayed??? or just cant fold:

Raise more pre. The check raise on the turn pretty much means your toast.
Posted by calcalfold