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4k BH final table bubble

edited June 2013 in The Poker Clinic
active table - no surprise there given who is on it - already in the cash - playing for the win
is the villains reraise on the flop a bluff enough times to make the call worthwhile?
i've only 14BB after my flop bet and didn't fancy being on such an active table with such a small stack, which is what finalised my decision to call
is there a better line?


TommyDSmall blind 800.00800.0023777.00
GELDYBig blind 1600.002400.0037400.00
 Your hole cards
  • 8
  • 8
   
xRaise 3200.005600.0068296.00
MattBatesFold    
TommyDFold    
GELDYRaise 6400.0012000.0031000.00
xCall 4800.0016800.0063496.00
Flop
  
  • 3
  • J
  • 4
   
GELDYBet 8400.0025200.0022600.00
xRaise 42000.0067200.0021496.00
GELDYAll-in 22600.0089800.000.00
xUnmatched bet 11000.0078800.0032496.00
GELDYShow
  • 8
  • 8
   
      

Comments

  • edited June 2013
    23 bbs, i personally move all in pre flop. 88 allways going to be tricky to play post flop out of position with that stack. not a bad flop though really for 88 but who ever the the guy with aj or kj is or what ever hand hes obv got a raging b0ner and has u beat and wants your bounty badly!!
  • edited June 2013
    If you're planning to call off a shove on this flop you can bet quite abit smaller, give him some incentive to make a move. 

    I'm not sure he's going to be bluffing here when you bet half pot after 3betting pre, you look very strong. 

    You can bet/call 5.5k or something. 

    Or just bet/fold. 

    Dunno about pre flop, it's on sky and I dnt have much experience so can't comment. I'd expect a call pre to be ok v some opponents though. Shoving can be ok also. Dnt think I'd 3b/call v many people. 
  • edited June 2013

    dont like pre.. easy jam vs most with eff stack behind.. 88 not goin flop well givin him that good a price to call with most his openin range thats not gonna call pre.

  • edited June 2013


    rarther think about vills opening range - what percentage of vills range calls and how u fair aginst that range - always a shove or fold- ya know how much does vill fold -
    3 bet small with this hand is just naaaaaaaaaaa


    flop decision to get it in is made for you, with one over what you gonna do fold when you have put in so much !

  • edited June 2013
    thks guys i needed that therapy after butchering the hand
    yes he had AJ
    yes given my strong line it could never be a bluff
    yes i played it too cute and should have just shoved or folded pre

    i blame being exhausted from having to be on a table with MattBates & TommyD
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: 4k BH final table bubble:
    thks guys i needed that therapy after butchering the hand yes he had AJ yes given my strong line it could never be a bluff yes i played it too cute and should have just shoved or folded pre i blame being exhausted from having to be on a table with MattBates & TommyD
    Posted by GELDY
    I am just surprised I folded pre!
  • edited June 2013
    HI G

    Nice table fella. Just over 20BB. I say shove pre myself as flops oop tend to have overs for 88 and put you in a difficult position. You certainly have enough FEQ, will be putting an aggro marker down and saying "im going ftw".

    As it stands, with just one over, no real draws, i think i make my stand and shove on the flop too. Put him to the decision.

    Hope it went well G
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