was it right to play both these the same way

craigcu12

craigcu12	Small blind		1000.00	1000.00	26828.75
SHO147	Big blind		2000.00	3000.00	31727.50
	Your hole cards	A Q
wineli	Fold
stickz19	Fold
Bunski	Fold
JAREDRHYS	Fold
craigcu12	All-in		26828.75	29828.75	0.00
SHO147	Fold
craigcu12	Muck
craigcu12	Win		4000.00		4000.00
craigcu12	Return		25828.75	0.00	29828.75

SHO147	Small blind		1000.00	1000.00	30727.50
wineli	Big blind		2000.00	3000.00	28900.50
	Your hole cards	K K
stickz19	Fold
Bunski	Fold
JAREDRHYS	Fold
craigcu12	All-in		29828.75	32828.75	0.00
SHO147	Fold
wineli	Fold
craigcu12	Muck
craigcu12	Win		5000.00		5000.00
craigcu12	Return		27828.75	0.00	32828.75

with hands like AQ i just jam as a gambel with it being late in the tournament.
but with AA-QQ should i slow down my aggression or is it still best to just jam.

hhyftrftdr

AQ and 13bb, easy spot to get it in. Reasonable chance you can get called by worse too as if the BB wakes up with A10 or AJ they might well struggle to fold that blind on blind. Might play it a bit trickier if I knew the villain or had some history, but the standard line in that spot is to move in I reckon.

KK is a tougher proposition. On one hand I like the shove as it balances your range, assuming that we would also jam A10 etc from the button with 15bb or less. However, as both blinds have a similar stack to yours, I might be inclined to minraise the button, let them think you are stealing and give them a chance to jam their pocket pairs or medium aces, or maybe even suited broadway cards if they believe they have fold equity. Sometimes you just need to hand them enough rope.

The_Don90

i min raise call off in these spots, purely because we have 13/15bb with 1/2 opponents to get through, I'm happy for them to 3b shove a much wider range. Although i dont think shoving is a mistake either. WP

jugglegeek

In Response to Re: was it right to play both these the same way:

i min raise call off in these spots, purely because we have 13/15bb with 1/2 opponents to get through, I'm happy for them to 3b shove a much wider range. Although i dont think shoving is a mistake either. WP
Posted by The_Don90

What do you do when your minraise gets called and then you get shoved on after an favourable flop eg AJ3 with KK or K62 with AQ?

est1967

With your stack craig its a cooler bet,There is no way you can fold pre with AQ in that situation.

unknown_username

Hi C

Its Eff stack size that tells you to shove here, in both cases. They are in call or fold mode too for their stack size. These situations should be shove fests as you may be adding 10% to your stack without seeing a flop.
I dont see AQ and jamming as a gamble as for certain stack eff sizes a call should come from a hand you have +EV with. You'd be surprised what you should jam with mathematically in this situation and for this eff ss.
PS Mind i had KK in SB v BB's AA just 4 handed. Shove, call out!

craigcu12

In Response to Re: was it right to play both these the same way:

With your stack craig its a cooler bet,There is no way you can fold pre with AQ in that situation.
Posted by est1967

it's wasn't that i would fold AQ that was just another all or nothing type.
it's weather pairs AA-QQ could be slowed down in as i already have a very good hand and wouldn't want to waste it.

craigcu12

if their was already a min raise done or if i before the button then i would certainly do a jam even with AA-QQ.