Shortstacked / Shorthanded

Glen17

3 People

20BB myself

How do i play? Is this acceptable?

5.75bh

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Hero	Small blind		1000.00	1000.00	40235.00
x	Big blind		2000.00	3000.00	52888.75
	Your hole cards	10 K
Villian	Raise		4000.00	7000.00	89876.25
Hero	All-in		40235.00	47235.00	0.00
x	Fold
Villian	Raise		74470.00	121705.00	15406.25
Villian	Unmatched bet		37235.00	84470.00	52641.25
Hero	Show	10 K
Villian	Show	10 A
Flop
		K 2 5
Turn
		A
River
		8
Villian	Win	Pair of Aces	84470.00		137111.25

Also if anyone knows any books relating to shorthanded/shortstack play please tell me really need to improve in this area

Lambert180

Well played, unlucky.

Smitalos

Shove is loose, and I personally wouldn't just 3b-jam it in here, but it's not terribad.

Learn to flop flushes in this spot imo. Can't believe you decided to flop a K instead, leaving him the 3outer. Poor imo.

nh ul gg

LnarinOO

also think shove is quite loose.. dont mind a stop n go as a 2nd option to get villan off the dominating hands that wil call ur pf jam.. dont back down should u miss tho

THEROCK573

i dont think its loose what so ever, 3 handed with 20bbs, button should be opening a lot wider than k10, unlucky in my book.

The_Don90

Its actually an annoying spot, i dont really want to 3b fold, dont think we get called by worse if we jam, hate peeling OOP, and hate folding. 

I didn't want to post purely because i think all those options have some arguement. Really dont feel harsh, many play it this way i think. 

rancid

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3 handed K10s, if btn been opening a lot and you know oppo will not call too wide then shove is ok

if you run into top of vill's range you can still hit a flush )

unknown_username

Hi G

More of a tricky one than normal. 3 hdd your playing range is much wider. 20 bb's a lot talk about pushing even though a lot of charts consider 12-13 bbs as max. I'd be a little worried that its someone who has you well covered who may just take a punt but from charts i've seen KTs is a top 10% hand for pushing but only a top 15% hand for calling though it should be noted that a raise has come first. If the btn has been active as the table has been reducing then i feel a shove is a good decision here.  Two live cards, enough fold equity, suitedness adds 2% to your equity and you shouldn't be far off a flip against Ax. You were just a little unlucky to be against AT. TBH at this stage  you can't afford to wait in my opinion especially 3 hdd. It is a problematic one as the charts are based on being in a ertain position with a certain stack and either facing an ai or considering if you should ai after all folding to you. Though i haven't read the others yet, i wouldn't be surprised if there' a mix bag of results here.

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: Shortstacked / Shorthanded:

.. - 3 handed K10s, if btn been opening a lot and you know oppo will not call too wide then shove is ok if you run into top of vill's range you can still hit a flush )
Posted by rancid

This

It's shove or fold.

Wilhelm

In Response to Re: Shortstacked / Shorthanded:

Hi G More of a tricky one than normal. 3 hdd your playing range is much wider. 20 bb's a lot talk about pushing even though a lot of charts consider 12-13 bbs as max. I'd be a little worried that its someone who has you well covered who may just take a punt but from charts i've seen KTs is a top 10% hand for pushing but only a top 15% hand for calling though it should be noted that a raise has come first. If the btn has been active as the table has been reducing then i feel a shove is a good decision here.  Two live cards, enough fold equity, suitedness adds 2% to your equity and you shouldn't be far off a flip against Ax. You were just a little unlucky to be against AT. TBH at this stage  you can't afford to wait in my opinion especially 3 hdd. It is a problematic one as the charts are based on being in a ertain position with a certain stack and either facing an ai or considering if you should ai after all folding to you. Though i haven't read the others yet, i wouldn't be surprised if there' a mix bag of results here.
Posted by profman15

This number should be doubled when there is a raise in front of us.

NColley

Well shoving is unexploitable but not necessarily the most profitable.

BorinLoner

In Response to Re: Shortstacked / Shorthanded:

also think shove is quite loose.. dont mind a stop n go as a 2nd option to get villan off the dominating hands that wil call ur pf jam.. dont back down should u miss tho
Posted by LnarinOO

What happens when we hit top-pair, though? We're not stop-and-going when we hit are we?

If we're not just shoving the flop with top-pair, it's pretty transparent when we have nothing. Not that all opponents are going to follow that line of thinking, but this is why I hate the stop-and-go.



Of course, if our opponent is thinking along those lines we should be shoving top-pair because they'll call us light... but that's probably just levelling ourselves.