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MTT's
Hi L
I wouldn't class mysellf as being very good at MTT's but i would like to give an opinion. Getting past the middle stages of MTT's can be done with TAG play and not too many chances taken, i feel. It's that change of gear that's needed after that which will propel you into the cashes and particularly the top three which you should always aim for.
The AA is perfectly played imo.
The AQo hand , for your stack size, is perfectly played by yourself and the call call by A8s is perfectly acceptable too though he should always raise pre imo. There are shove/call charts for certain stack sizes which are available and will make these decisions for you should you be readless.
Good luck in MTT's
I wouldn't class mysellf as being very good at MTT's but i would like to give an opinion. Getting past the middle stages of MTT's can be done with TAG play and not too many chances taken, i feel. It's that change of gear that's needed after that which will propel you into the cashes and particularly the top three which you should always aim for.
The AA is perfectly played imo.
The AQo hand , for your stack size, is perfectly played by yourself and the call call by A8s is perfectly acceptable too though he should always raise pre imo. There are shove/call charts for certain stack sizes which are available and will make these decisions for you should you be readless.
Good luck in MTT's
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Is there any decent winning MTT players would mind looking over a few MTT hands sometime/ given a bit of feedback on hands how they were played?
I'm decent enough at Cash and HU Games, but MTT's have really been a weak point the last while. The last time i won an MTT (online) was months ago. I seem to get into the mid to late stages, like 30% of the field left and struggle from there on in. I know that's my weakness in tournies.
I played an MTT tonight, there was 60 left out of 200 plus, then this hand happened, Pocket Aces Busted with 10s leaving me 800 chips. I won a hand taken me up to 2300, then got this in with AQ against chip leaders A8 suited, flop came down giving him a straight and flush draw, straight hut!
I was playing quite well, and i know i'm just unlucky with the aces hand, but take out getting a monster and getting a call, at this stage in a tournie i'm not sure what the optimal way to play is.
If any good MTT player would be up for a chat sometime about the mid stages of a Tournie/ Strategy around this send me a message or let me know on here. Thanks
That's my weakness in MTT's "the change of gear" i would say i'm not very good at this at all.
The aces hand above, plays itself, really easy. But outside of big starting hands, i'm not sure how to "change gears"
Early doors in tournies is pretty straight forward, as is the later stages where most are really shallow.
It's just the middle ground i struggle with. Quite often i'll get deep, but am sitting shortish stacked past the bubble.
Hand 1. You got what you wanted aa all in pre.
Hand 2. 10 bigs with aq standard shove.
I'm seeing if anyone would be up for given me a bit of help with the mid stages of a tournie, talking through some things, maybe look at a few hands.
But as you say a lot of hands do play themselves when you are shortstacked around the bubble, but if you want to ask my opinion on anything specific im happy to bounce some ideas around. Itd be nice for me too to see what other players think of specific situations.
People play too tight around the bubble, then too loose once it has burst, when it probably should be the other way round.
I've sent you a pm gazza.
Since i started this thread, i've played 5 tournies, and 3 times i've got knocked out when i've got it in with a dominating Ace lol
3 bad beats isn't extraordinary tbh. consider yourself owed by the poker gods!.
Utg, raise a little bit more...maybe 2.5-3bb. It stops marginals playing even sppr's. Btw, i think you should obliterate Leon's name in the eg above. He doesn't want his tendancies advertised. TBh his raise is poor really and should be 2 !/2 xbb and if this is one third of the eff stack then he should consider AI shove. The raise has no effect whatsoever really. You made the correct play overall and would do the same in the future. Thats fine...keep it up m8!
Was sitting with 10k, 40 left (20 was the bubble) i was about 17th in chips.
Sitting with pocket queens in BB, guy raises, table maniac bets to 2.2k i 4 bet Jam! Initial raiser folds, maniac calls with Ace 8 spades, flop x x x all spades lol
Bit brutal lol
I'm gonna play in the community, 3 games for a fiver 2 morrow night. Never played in it before, but sounds like good fun.
Thanks to the people who said they didn't mind looking at some hands. I'll take a note of crucial/ critical/ interesting hands and have a look at them later.
Update: Since i started this thread i've played about 8/9 Mtts, ran deepish in most, went out early in 2. I've min cashed once and final tabled once, ending up 4th, getting it in AJ vrs KK, with 10 bb.
Should i just ship this pre?
Or did i do the right thing min raiseing to try andinduce a shove pre?
Gotta say, it's awful play from the villain and he got pretty lucky. The only saving grace is that you had him well covered.
I see you posted this hand because you lost it... you wouldnt be thinking about the raise pre if you'd won. Try not to be results orientated. Its the correct play.
I ended up playing a bounty hunter tonight, ended up with no Bounties but min cashed (i wasn't trying to!)
Really happy with how i played, apart from my exit hand (below)
I ran well at the start of the tournie getting up to about 5k.. Lost a bit, then the blinds got up 2 150/300, 200/400 3/6 and i was card dead, grinded a 10 bb stack for like an hour, then manged to get an above average stack, done 3 k on one hand, then my exit hand occurred!
I think i need to ship this pre? Fold or shove? I think it's a mistake calling like i did. On that flop i'm doing my money every day of the week.
no bad beats this tournie!
thisltedu Small blind 400.00 400.00 1822.50 FIELDY1978 Big blind 800.00 1200.00 12105.00 Your hole cards J A jan1965 Raise 1600.00 2800.00 16517.50 danny420 Fold LARSON7 Call 1600.00 4400.00 14130.00 thisltedu Fold FIELDY1978 Call 800.00 5200.00 11305.00 Flop 2 J 6 FIELDY1978 Check jan1965 Bet 800.00 6000.00 15717.50 LARSON7 All-in 14130.00 20130.00 0.00 FIELDY1978 Fold jan1965 Call 13330.00 33460.00 2387.50 jan1965 Show 2 2 LARSON7 Show J A Turn 8 River 10 jan1965 Win Three 2s 33460.00
Shove or fold pre. Flatting is probably the worst option with >20bb. Be more decisive pre when this shallow.
As played, almost impossible to get away from.
10 Qualified for the Mini.
Had another deep run but ended up being knocked out about 20th out of 250th.
This is my exit hand, is this a fair enough to shove Ace 7, given my staack(under 10 bigs) and position?
Loose call by villain though I think as he doesnt need to risk over half his starting stack with such a mediocre hand.
With 8bb, you should be shoving almost any 2 cards if it's folded to you on the button. So A7 is a no brainer.