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Last nights main could i have got away from this?
Im thinking could I have have got away from this hand.My pre flop call was not great tbh but on this flop with 2 call bets I decide to jam was this right/wrong. Im still thinking if flush has already hit I still have outs until I saw the board lol. PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancewynne1938 Small blind 15.00 15.00 2690.00 cannibal70 Big blind 30.00 45.00 2230.00 Your hole cards 7 7 Poshbird Call 30.00 75.00 1862.50 kidgirlgy Raise 150.00 225.00 1367.50 floppedout Fold est1967 Call 150.00 375.00 1540.00 wynne1938 Fold cannibal70 Fold Poshbird Call 120.00 495.00 1742.50 Flop 7 Q 8 Poshbird Bet 247.50 742.50 1495.00 kidgirlgy Call 247.50 990.00 1120.00 est1967 All-in 1540.00 2530.00 0.00 Poshbird Call 1292.50 3822.50 202.50 kidgirlgy All-in 1120.00 4942.50 0.00 Poshbird Show 8 8 kidgirlgy Show A K est1967 Show 7 7 Turn J River A kidgirlgy Win Flush to the Ace 4597.50 4597.50 Poshbird Win Three 8s 345.00 547.50
Comments
flop - what else you going to do - fold !
You're 3bet shoving nearly 60xBB with 77 over just a limp and an iso?
Call or fold imo, both acceptable in certain circumstances. We're facing a 5x which is very rarely light. However we like flopping sets against strong preflop ranges as this increases the chances of getting the lot on the occasions we catch that set.
On the flop, I too am putting on my coat and saying good luck everyone.
fold />shove />call
The only problem I have with calling is, your only calling to hit a set - and your calling a percentage of your stack that I am not overly keen on - if you want to compound you own misery on a 925r by calling not to just hit a set then be my guest to wittle your stack away - imo we just ain't deep enough facing the 5xraise to set mine - I mean we are never even guarenteed that oppo will stack flop anyway if we hit set - oppo may have QQ and the flop comes down AK7
In contrast the other player set mining is fine.
Is a shove better than a call, as mentioned above will probably fold out a certain range (88-JJ, AJ,AQ) so it's not terrible
Ofc we only get called by better prs and AK
Alot revolves around what range we put oppo on for the 5x and how much fold equity we think we have.
FWIW I fold pre
plus i forget to mention we not closing the betting when we call, someone 3 bets behind we are crying like a child
We are just making what we deem to be the best play with the hand we have
We ain't deep enough to worry about anything else
Basically with these hands we will do x, and these hands we will do Y....etc..
Your obviously implying something...just not sure what
I mean facing 5x iso, what range are we 3betting this deep ? Is it really wide, do we include bluffs..
Are we absolutely sure that this player is only raising a nitty range?
I don't think we should be assuming that other players are going to get involved. Even if other players do call to see a flop, their ranges aren't as strong as the raiser, meaning that if they get it in against us post-flop they're likely to have considerably more equity against our set than a simple overpair would. The implied odds aren't good to set-mine.
We can call pre-flop if we're not giving this raise credit for being a nitty range. Obviously if we can call a flop bet and reassess the turn against a relatively wide pre-flop range, we're not restricting ourselves to set-mining.
I'm in agreement with those not liking shoving... 56BB over a limp and a 5x. I don't think the rewards from the occasions that we get the shove through are going to come close to all the times we bust as a 20/80 dog.
Fold if the villain's a nit. Call if the villain's playing a wider range. 3-bet/fold if the villain's playing a super-wide range (unless they're 4-betting wide too, in which case I'd open-fold to avoid levelling with 77 or call to play in position). Never shove. Them's my thoughts and they're so obviously better than everyone else's.