was the blinds getting too high for this call?

craigcu12

i have just been knocked out of the mini and where it seemed to go wrong was after this hand.
when the second 10 hit's the river i was left wondering if their is a chance to bluff but then again would he fall for it or would he still call.

day4eire76	Small blind		100.00	100.00	6952.50
Hywel_rob	Big blind		200.00	300.00	6787.50
	Your hole cards	7 6
x	Raise		400.00	700.00	10547.50
bosswite	Fold
craigcu12	Call		400.00	1100.00	10910.00
scousestar	Fold
day4eire76	Fold
Hywel_rob	Fold
Flop
		10 5 A
x	Bet		1100.00	2200.00	9447.50
craigcu12	Call		1100.00	3300.00	9810.00
Turn
		2
x	Bet		1650.00	4950.00	7797.50
craigcu12	Call		1650.00	6600.00	8160.00
River
		10
x	Bet		1200.00	7800.00	6597.50

Lambert180

Calling pre is fine imo, plenty deep enough for the implied odds we get when flopping a whoppa and we can also just play some pokerz IP when we miss.

I don't love that he pots the flop,might actually fold here, if we don't fold here then it's hard to fold the turn, obv just fold the river.

F_Ivanovic

If your playing these sort of hands then you need to consider making moves with them at some point rather than just waiting to hit a flush/straight. Obviously this is only if the right oppertunity arises (ie. the opponent seems weak/you think you can get him to fold a marginal hand)

In this situation I think you can fold both the flop and turn unless your against a LAG that's standard is to pot flop (and they c-bet a lot) 

Batkin88

I think I would fold the flop or raise I wouldn't call unless both us and the villain was deeper stacked.

If calling you should def call the turn as his bet sizing is well off and likely looks like he also has a drawing hand. Once you hit the river although his bet is extremely I fold although it now really looks like a missed spade draw like yours but it's a big risk to shove and hope he doesn't hold a half decent ace.

calcalfold

Personally I fold pre, but I would either ship or fold flop. Calling is by far the worst option.

yb

calling pre is a pretty big leak imo

hhyftrftdr

Don't mind a call pre in position. We are playing 55bigs. But we need to be confident enough in our post flop play to make it worthwhile.

Lambert180

Yeah I can't see any problem with calling pre this deep as long as we're good enough postflop to not just play fit/fold on the flop

jimb0d1

You need to know if this is a good player and what his pot bet represents on the flop. Usually very strong hand, but some weak players will bet like this to 'find out where they are at' with their draws or a weak pair. 

I think he has a weak ace as played and you can bluff shove the river now if you have a solid read that he can fold a tp hand. However, this is usually when i have to type 'nh' in the chatbox to his A3hh and then amend the notes to 'NEVER BLUFF THIS PLAYER'.

yb

i don't think the fact that we have 55 bigs or whatever is reason to go calling raises from utg opens with any suited connector hands, presumably because we are 'looking for spots' and think we can outplay everyone on the table

i'd much prefer just opening loads more in position when we get to steal lots / play for pots in position and with initiative. a lot of the time people say they are calling these hands with the intention of not just playing fit/fold poker but thats invariably what they end up doing, you need to have very good postflop play/handreading skills to make this good imo

craigcu12

i have just had a thought about his pot sized bet on the flop could it be possible that he had the nut flush draw himself.
i probably will never know unless he comes but it was wrong to call post flop as he was too aggro and the board was dry to most other hands that would call preflop the only hands i could see hitting are A5 A10 or 55.

Lambert180

So he can't raise pre with A2-AK, KK, QQ, JJ, AA, 55, TT, KQ, KJ, QJ, (without FDs)? Obv it's easy to say 'but would he full pot these?' but obviously his bet sizing is awful no matter what hand he has so meh.

That doesn't even include all the hands he could have raised pre and just be c-betting with no hand, no draw.

yowsh

U LOST A 3RD OF UR STACK HOLDING NOTHING. THINK THE ANSWERS RITE THERE......

craigcu12

the hands above are the ones he could put me on if i did raise post flop and then their would be the problem if he shipped it.
with the Axs what i mean by that is he could well be holding that so if a flush comes i am still behind
but it was wrong to call it post flop.

1267

shove river

Batkin88

Yeah looking back this is a fold pre if you play it the way you have I would shove the turn as a bluff as I would not put him on a made hand here, or the easy option fold the flop.