Just Give up, or ship the river?

LARSON7

This hand here, i was thinking they had a big Ace. When they called my turn bet, i was thinking differently so checked gave up. Should i just have followed through with my plan? If i shove the river, this would be a decent enough play? No reads.

Benalman	Small blind		10.00	10.00	4970.00
Jeffter	Big blind		20.00	30.00	5405.00
	Your hole cards	J A
wheels72	Fold
LARSON7	Raise		65.00	95.00	4477.50
Cheezi21RY	Call		65.00	160.00	4475.00
bckneil	Fold
x	Raise		140.00	300.00	4860.00
IDJIUT	Fold
stokefc	Fold
Benalman	Fold
Jeffter	Call		120.00	420.00	5285.00
LARSON7	Call		75.00	495.00	4402.50
Cheezi21RY	Call		75.00	570.00	4400.00
Flop
		2 7 5
Jeffter	Check
LARSON7	Check
Cheezi21RY	Check
x	Bet		285.00	855.00	4575.00
Jeffter	Fold
LARSON7	Raise		580.00	1435.00	3822.50
Cheezi21RY	Fold
x	Call		295.00	1730.00	4280.00
Turn
		6
LARSON7	Bet		865.00	2595.00	2957.50
x	Call		865.00	3460.00	3415.00
River
		10
LARSON7	Check
x	Check
LARSON7	Show	J A
x	Show	A K
x	Win	Ace high	3460.

THEROCK573

give the turn up mate, the 6 card isnt a card you should be barreling cos it changes nothing.

hhyftrftdr

Fold pre. Not a great hand to be playing oop after being 3bet.

Edit - 10 handed, probably just open fold AJo in early position.

calcalfold

Struggling to work out who played this worse.

THEROCK573

In Response to Re: Just Give up, or ship the river?:

Struggling to work out who played this worse.
Posted by calcalfold

constructive as allways.

LARSON7

In Response to Re: Just Give up, or ship the river?:

Struggling to work out who played this worse.
Posted by calcalfold

lol thanks mate haha

LARSON7

I would say me lol I gotta ship the river

waller02

Raising is fine imo but fold to 3 bet pre, if an ace comes on the flop you can easily be in a world of hurt.

Flop..........just fold mate.

GELDY

it's a deepstack, early stages,

so calling the 3bet pre isn't the worst thing in the world as you are multiway

as long as you bin it if you don't hit hard (ie 2pr or straight draw)

but c/mr on the flop 4-handed - audacious - but bluffing 4-way is not for the faint hearted

and as soon as your bluff is called it's over

ps their 3bet pre can just as well be a nice pair as a big A, and as it was not much more than a minraise over an utg+1 raise + mp caller that is screaming strength

calcalfold

Upon review, I would say fold the flop. Not worth it in a tourney.

LARSON7

In Response to Re: Just Give up, or ship the river?:

Upon review, I would say fold the flop. Not worth it in a tourney.
Posted by calcalfold

Thanks for the consideration

Lambert180

A fold pre is probably best, opening the AJo is ok but on a 10handed table when we've opened UTG+1, get a call, then get 3bet and another call, we're probably not in fantastic shape and there are so few flops that we'll feel confident on.

As Geldy said, we're very deep so a call isn't terrible given the great price we're getting but it's gotta be a call t try and smack the flop imo not a call to then go nuts on a flop that is rubbish for us. Sets are well within his range on the flop as are OPs and he did c-bet 4way which is generally not a sign of weakness.

Because of your action pre and then your action post, you're pretty much just repping sets and nothing else which is alright but means you have to follow through and ship the river, and you may get him off some OPs.

calcalfold

In Response to Re: Just Give up, or ship the river?:

In Response to Re: Just Give up, or ship the river? : Thanks for the consideration
Posted by LARSON7

Very welcome.

Batkin88

If you are betting the turn why didn't you shove the river here? Did you put him on the 7 and as no over you feel he is calling?

LARSON7

In Response to Re: Just Give up, or ship the river?:

If you are betting the turn why didn't you shove the river here? Did you put him on the 7 and as no over you feel he is calling?
Posted by Batkin88

I gave up, really bad i know. If i ship the river they really need a monster to call.

I don't mind my play here, i just didn't stick to the plan lol

waller02

In Response to Re: Just Give up, or ship the river?:

In Response to Re: Just Give up, or ship the river? : I gave up, really bad i know. If i ship the river they really need a monster to call. I don't mind my play here, i just didn't stick to the plan lol
Posted by LARSON7

grow a pair or be a scared nit like me and c/f flop

hhyftrftdr

Really no need to get involved in the hand Larson. Done a third of your stack needlessly. Don't waste tourney chips! Once they are gone...

CraigSG1

Far to aggressive with little equity early in a tourny. Fold flop. As played, you have to ship river to continue your story. If he calls, note that bad call and move on.

j0hns0ns

Fold to the three bet pre works for me --- if an ace or a j comes down you have no idea whether you are ahead or behind ... you need a miracle flop to be happy after this call...