now what???

THEROCK573

notes on player say hes a fish but cant seem to really remember playing him before?? oldest trick in the book by a fish to limp re raise AA but KK still a difficult fold pre flop, thoughts????

random429	Small blind		15.00	15.00	2385.00
bar4004	Big blind		30.00	45.00	1990.00
	Your hole cards	K K
xxxxx	Call		30.00	75.00	3660.00
raymon1975	Fold
THEROCK573	Raise		120.00	195.00	1760.00
Azza811	Fold
random429	Fold
bar4004	Fold
xxxxxx	Raise		450.00	645.00	3210.00

hhyftrftdr

Oldest trick in the book but we never get away from it.

In it goes.

F_Ivanovic

Would have thought you'd know better to post a question like this! Maybe you did run into AA, but you need absolute concrete reads to ever fold KK less than 100bb deep. And by concrete; I mean you've played with the player a lot and have only seen him re-raise big pre-flop with aces.

THEROCK573

In Response to Re: now what???:

Would have thought you'd know better to post a question like this! Maybe you did run into AA, but you need absolute concrete reads to ever fold KK less than 100bb deep. And by concrete; I mean you've played with the player a lot and have only seen him re-raise big pre-flop with aces.
Posted by F_Ivanovic

its not just a standard 3 bet though is it, its a limp then a 3 bet, fish allways do this with AA and sometimes KK. 

MattBates

In Response to Re: now what???:

In Response to Re: now what??? : its not just a standard 3 bet though is it, its a limp then a 3 bet, fish allways do this with AA and sometimes KK. 
Posted by THEROCK573

Yes, sometimes it is AA but I had it the other day when someone had 55. Its a pretty old school way of playing hands. Im not folding KK in this spot, let them play their AA in this way as most of the time they are losing value.

THEROCK573

In Response to Re: now what???:

In Response to Re: now what??? : Yes, sometimes it is AA but I had it the other day when someone had 55. Its a pretty old school way of playing hands. Im not folding KK in this spot, let them play their AA in this way as most of the time they are losing value.
Posted by MattBates

i just think they turn there hand face up playing it like this and 9 times out of 10 it will be aces or kk . suppose it would be a bit nitty folding though.

Batkin88

Folds fine this early IMO

IDONKCALLU

During the war i limped utg n then shoved  hellmuth got caught out last week but so hard to fold kings in this spot id go with it 

gazza127

All in every single time.

If they have aces, meh - cold deck.  The amount of times they pop up with AK or worse for me makes this +ev.  Someone did this to me last night with AQos.  

F_Ivanovic

In Response to Re: now what???:

In Response to Re: now what??? : its not just a standard 3 bet though is it, its a limp then a 3 bet, fish allways do this with AA and sometimes KK. 
Posted by THEROCK573

Whilst I have seen fish do this with AA/KK, I've also seen 10 times as many fish do this with hands that KK crushes. If 1 in 10 times they have aces/kings and the rest they have something worse then it's still a profitable shove with kings.