Huge overbet....too much so?

DOHHHHHHH

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
hopp	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£38.81
stanley08	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£19.50
	Your hole cards	A A
vjj	Call		£0.50	£1.25	£23.10
YogiTheDog	Call		£0.50	£1.75	£52.69
DOHHHHHHH	Raise		£3.00	£4.75	£105.82
xxx	Call		£3.00	£7.75	£139.85
hopp	Fold
stanley08	Fold
vjj	Fold
YogiTheDog	Call		£2.50	£10.25	£50.19
Flop
		3 J 4
YogiTheDog	Check
DOHHHHHHH	Bet		£7.50	£17.75	£98.32
xxx	Call		£7.50	£25.25	£132.35
YogiTheDog	Fold
Turn
		A
DOHHHHHHH	Check
xxx	Check
River
		3
DOHHHHHHH	All-in		£98.32	£123.57	£0.00
xxx	Fold
DOHHHHHHH	Muck
DOHHHHHHH	Win		£122.31		£122.31

DOHHHHHHH

What do u guys bet on the river here? I went for the lot......maybe rushed into it, he has a big stack, doubled his buy in, and doesn't have a huge amount invested.

I was sure the river card was my money card. - Rushed into the overbet and probably looked too strong! Maybe I shud have bet double the pot rather than move all in? Or a standard V bet?

DOHH

Kaidus

This sometimes works, but mainly as a bluff. I would probably make a value bet of 1/2 - 3/4 pot and hope that Villain has the nut flush or a lower FH and will raise or call. I, personally, would pass the nut flush here as everytime someone does this to me, they generally have it.

acebarry10

Hi m8

Yup, I think I wud av bet the valoooooooo half to 3 quarts too if he does go over the top with the flush you got him, if he folds nothing lost anyway

Talon

  I understand the size of the bet is to make it look like a bluff steal attempt which could be called by anyone who has a big flush. My only concern is that you did it with the third nuts so therefore you could have been maximising your losses in this hand as well.

 But overall i think it is a good bet that will get paid off a lot by anyone with a flush.

yb

Hi mate,

With both of you being reasonably deep, if I was the other player I'd be pretty sure you had the goods for you to go all-in on the river (like at least the nut flush, if not full house). With certain players this move works, there are some who will call a massive overbet with pretty much anything so it depends what notes you have on your opponent I guess. But without previous knowledge I think I'm going for a bet about 1 and a half times the pot here. He probably had either the jack or flush draw to call you on the flop (though with the jack he might well have raised), and if he's just got the jack he's going to fold to any bet you make here so I'd be going for a reasonably large bet and hoping he's got a decent flush to pay you off with.

FlashFlush

I think a smaller bet is in order, if he doesnt have a club your getting nothing out of him how ever much you bet, if he has a smaller full house he re-raises you putting you on a flush, so either way what ever you bet you get nothing or him all in.

I think the best thing you can do here is bet very small (about £4 - £5) this way he may pay you off, or thinks your weak and re-raises to represent.

namesb0nd

i bet about half of the pot and hope he will shove over the top with a flush/bluff.

KnackersYa

Nothing wrong with the bet, on that board he's either folding to any bet or calling any bet imho.

LadyFingrs

I like it.

The move of honour.

Done by few, respected by all.

HartshorN

He probably not even got a club so the overbet has come off bad in this situation mate, by the book says 3/4pot bet, to extract some more off of him.

LadyFingrs

In Response to Re: Huge overbet....too much so?:

He probably not even got a club so the overbet has come off bad in this situation mate, by the book says 3/4pot bet, to extract some more off of him.
Posted by HartshorN

but he's not calling w/o a club sooooo

ACESOVER8s

I bet the pot, if he's got the king he may even come over the top of me? if he has no club he isn't calling anything (and shouldn't be there lol) and if he has a smaller house, say Jacks over 3's then again he may min -raise my pot bet thinking he's getting value