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Passive AK mc nl10 - result
What's the villain's 3-betting range pre-flop and what does he flat 4-bets or 5-bet with versus us?
Raise bigger on the turn. So much value on that board..
On the river, what does a straightforward opponent check-raise? I think he check-calls everything we beat that doesn't 3-bet the turn and probably doesn't call the raise on the turn with any air. So we're beat and should fold... I call to see it.
Raise bigger on the turn. So much value on that board..
On the river, what does a straightforward opponent check-raise? I think he check-calls everything we beat that doesn't 3-bet the turn and probably doesn't call the raise on the turn with any air. So we're beat and should fold... I call to see it.
Comments
vill is reg at level and has a little bit of game but pretty straight forward mostly
I played it passive but anyone feel like folding
you can all guess what vill hand, I'll reveal later
Hand History #686188183 (23:43 01/09/2013)
Now your being silly, but I never have str or the flush do I
its too deep for him to c/r gii with 9-10hh - or somethin similar so would have thought he'd cbet all of these-
as to folding- naaaaaa cant win ever if we fold and too much of the time we're good-
as for villans hand id say somewhere in the region of A-10hh
Villains play is really confusing. He's 3 bet pre. If we assume he has 2 hearts why is he not betting the flop when his equity is highest and he can take the pot down uncontested? He then decides to lead the turn when his equity drops and calls a raise (I go slightly bigger on the raise). Then he C/R river when flush comes in. Mega wierd play from villain.
If he's got the flush, he's played it very wierd. I find a call here the vast majority of the time. You say he's got a 'straight forward game mostly' - ergo if he 3 bets and flops flush draw, he bets.
I think oppo either has air, has massivley overrepped 2 pair or a set, or has seen the river come in and has decided you don't have the flush as you raised the turn and has tried to bluff you off your hand.
I call.
EDIT - really hope im not villain
really don't know if vill is value raising or bluffing though, would be intresting to hear his thoughts
plus he shows me and i am like wtf u showing me for --- rubz ---
wp gg
I'd bet anything it wsa a value raise, but that's the problem cos he can't get called by worse imo.
as for the reason I show you well that was as an attempt to make callers more likely when I do hit the flushes.
1) You get called by worse hands (value)
2) You make better hands fold (bluff)
You're never getting a call from worse hands and I would have said you won't make better fold but here we are looking at you having done that lol. I wouldn't make a habit of bluffing with sets tho.
yh i was being sarcastic - min i have straight so........hence it looked that way so i folded
I would like to actually prefer to give credit to vill for blowing me off my hand
Given reads I said I thought it was a fold. I would still say it's a fold if we think villain does play straightforward because he's repping precisely the flush. Saying rancid should never fold the river would seem to be ignoring his read, even if we now think his read was not great.
Craig, I'd say that your play doesn't make a lot of sense for the reasons that others have touched on: You have a value hand and you don't need to bluff. If you give rancid a range of only hands that beat you, you shouldn't be raising the river because he shouldn't fold any of those hands, unless you know that he thinks you're a massive nit. In the absence of that information, you're just turning your TT into a bluff in a situation where it's unlikely that your opponent is going to fold better. He's certainly very unlikely to call with any worse, so it's not a value raise.
...but what do I know? You got him to fold so maybe you knew all of those things and just pwned him.