passive poker

craigcu12

the amount of passive poker I have seen on the micro stakes make me think I could be getting myself into so much trouble with my betting and calling

here are a few of the big questionable ones

with them all the villians seem so passive
hand one
should I fold the moment he does the raise on the flop

craigcu12	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£20.42
nin777	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£26.69
	Your hole cards	7 8
BorinLoner	Fold
phishing	Call		£0.10	£0.25	£34.95
mikeisking	Fold
CHARLIE999	Fold
craigcu12	Raise		£0.25	£0.50	£20.17
nin777	Call		£0.20	£0.70	£26.49
phishing	Call		£0.20	£0.90	£34.75
Flop
		8 3 7
craigcu12	Bet		£0.70	£1.60	£19.47
nin777	Fold
phishing	Raise		£2.43	£4.03	£32.32
craigcu12	Call		£1.73	£5.76	£17.74
Turn
		2
craigcu12	Check
phishing	Bet		£4.32	£10.08	£28.00
craigcu12	Call		£4.32	£14.40	£13.42
River
		10
craigcu12	Check
phishing	Bet		£14.40	£28.80	£13.60
craigcu12	All-in		£13.42	£42.22	£0.00
phishing	Unmatched bet		£0.98	£41.24	£14.58
craigcu12	Show	7 8
phishing	Show

was it the right thing going all in on the river and was my bet sizing on the turn a good size value bet or should it have been smaller

jfmpoker11	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£11.83
craig271081	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£3.72
	Your hole cards	K A
craigcu12	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£10.16
BLUCHERBOY	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£8.32
DrSharp	Fold
leslie1953	Fold
jfmpoker11	Call		£0.25	£1.00	£11.58
craig271081	Fold
Flop
		K 5 J
jfmpoker11	Check
craigcu12	Bet		£0.75	£1.75	£9.41
BLUCHERBOY	Call		£0.75	£2.50	£7.57
jfmpoker11	Call		£0.75	£3.25	£10.83
Turn
		4
jfmpoker11	Check
craigcu12	Bet		£2.44	£5.69	£6.97
BLUCHERBOY	Call		£2.44	£8.13	£5.13
jfmpoker11	Fold
River
		4
craigcu12	All-in		£6.97	£15.10	£0.00
BLUCHERBOY	All-in		£5.13	£20.23	£0.00
craigcu12	Unmatched bet		£1.84	£18.39	£1.84
craigcu12	Show	K A
BLUCHERBOY

as for when I do get monsters was I throwing far too much value away away not going for a decent size reraise on the flop.

craigcu12	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£19.40
nin777	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£25.69
	Your hole cards	8 8
BorinLoner	Fold
phishing	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£52.82
mikeisking	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£9.19
craigcu12	Call		£0.25	£1.00	£19.15
nin777	Fold
Flop
		Q 8 9
craigcu12	Bet		£0.60	£1.60	£18.55
phishing	Raise		£1.20	£2.80	£51.62
mikeisking	Call		£1.20	£4.00	£7.99
craigcu12	Call		£0.60	£4.60	£17.95
Turn
		5
craigcu12	Check
phishing	Check
mikeisking	Check
River
		J
craigcu12	All-in		£17.95	£22.55	£0.00
phishing	Fold
mikeisking	Fold

hhyftrftdr

That last hand with 88, the river shove is madness and essentially turning our set of 8's into a bluff. We're only ever getting called by a 10 or an unlikely higher set.

I quite like the 'donk' lead on the flop, and when it gets raised and cold called, it gives us a great opportunity to bloat the pot and pump it up again when we are almost 100% ahead. We should be raising this board, not only for value but also because there are a couple of straightening cards that could kill our action on the turn.

As said above, I can't comprehend the river shove into 2 villains with almost bottom set. Especially after if got checked round on the turn and brings in a 4 card straight on the river. You've shovelled the money in on the river when you could be beat, yet put in the minimum on the flop when you have a very strong, and somewhat disguised, holding.

offshoot

Hand 1: Folding flop feels so weak but he raises more than 3x and doesnt slow down on turn or river. Would be surprised if your ahead all that often. If you havent seem him raise that many flops i would be inclined to fold.

Hand 2 is perfect.

Hand 3: re-raising flop is preferable because of how deep you are. Just flatting isnt bad though. On the river youve just swtiched your brain off due to feeling like youve lost value. Think about what hands you want to call and bet 1/2 pot or 3/4 to get a call from two pair and to limit losses when they show up with a ten. What you did is basically bluff with a set and miss even more value.

Bet sizing for everything else was good though/

craigcu12

i am going to put a cooldown period for the rest of this month because i think as that hand 3 shows i think i am probably in a tilt at the minute.
i have been wasting far to much in MTT poker when the only ones i should have been playing were the deepstacks timed and SnG  as thy atleast are short or in deep stacks case similar to a cash table at the start. so i had suffered so many times badly. when i go onto the cash table i haven't been relaxed so get so frustrated at the fact that when i do a bet they fold so much more often also when i see these raises that are made on the flop they don't often continue on the turn unless they are very strong and the number of times that i have seen players trapping with the hands which TBH was the villain in hand 2 was doing he had KJ and called all the way it makes me get angered so i become a maniac when in truth i thing the cash tables are far more nittier than MTT.

the hands were
H1 he had the flush j9s
H2 KJ
H3 the both folded

my advice to others don't do what i did and mix MTT poker with cash poker because they can cause disaster.

goodbye for now back in October.

F_Ivanovic

Other posters have covered most of what I would have said. Agree about not mixing MTT's with cash! I do this a bit and often regret it!

Hand 1 I think calling the flop is OK since we can spike a FH and we might still have the best hand but when they bet again OTT I'm folding since we don't have odds to call for a FH anymore and we're almost never ahead.

BorinLoner

Take a break from playing if you like. You can still spend time reviewing hands, reading or watching videos. Whatever you feel helps your game.

I'd suggest you post up the hand between you and I on the TJTXJ board. You said you found it to be a tough decision on the end. You might benefit from the thoughts of others.