Bubble Boy: Do you think I played this terribly?

RevKnowled

We were down to 4 handed in the £50 gtd. I realise I probably should have shoved on the flop. Hindsight is 20/20. If I did go allin on the flop I think I would have been called. he has me covered with the nut straight draw and the bubble has lasted ages.Opinions?PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceZOEDSmall blind 150.00150.006291.00brass777Big blind 300.00450.0020358.00 Your hole cardsA2   RevKnowledRaise 600.001050.003730.00martinst10Fold    ZOEDCall 450.001500.005841.00brass777Call 300.001800.0020058.00Flop  A2J   ZOEDCheck    brass777Check    RevKnowledCheck    Turn  3   ZOEDCheck    brass777Bet 300.002100.0019758.00RevKnowledRaise 1200.003300.002530.00ZOEDCall 1200.004500.004641.00brass777Call 900.005400.0018858.00River  Q   ZOEDCheck    brass777Bet 5400.0010800.0013458.00RevKnowledAll-in 2530.0013330.000.00ZOEDFold    brass777Unmatched bet 2870.0010460.0016328.00brass777ShowK10   RevKnowledShowA2   brass777WinStraight to the Ace10460.00 26788.00

jonjo75

If you go all in on the flop there is no way he should call for a gut shot.

Lambert180

Well I wouldn't suggest just going all in on the flop but you definitely have to bet it. You're just missing out on tons of value when they have Ax or some decent Jx hands.

Then you can easily shove the turn, if he wants to call, then that's up to him and he's making a mistake.

demondave

Looking at your stack size and you started the hand with 4300 you only had 14 BB in that spot its ship it or fold, min raising like you did with ace rag put you in a whole world of pain if you miss the flop and someone pushes you have to fold leaving yourself with only 12 BB, so next time all in or find yourself a better spot.

-ACERAG-

Looking at your stack size and you started the hand with 4300 you only had 14 BB in that spot its ship it or fold, min raising like you did with ace rag put you in a whole world of pain if you miss the flop and someone pushes you have to fold leaving yourself with only 12 BB, so next time all in or find yourself a better spot.

RevKnowled

I think the reason I min raised is because there was history of everyone folding to the min raise. I really think my biggest mistake was checking the flop. 

If I had jammed the the flop he would have around 16% chance of hitting his gutshot and he would only be risking a 5th of his stack to get into the money. That probably wouldn't have been his thinking.

Thanks for the advice guys

Ps. Bubbled 2 tournaments today feeling stupid

F_Ivanovic

With 14BB's there is no need to play shove or fold pre-flop in a non-ante tournament. The risk/reward is just not there. Sure, we could tighten up our shoving range but we'll often be waiting for a good while to find a spot where the risk/reward of shoving with XX is going to be worth it.

Min-r/folding is fine pre-flop because having a 12bb stack is still OK as we still have plenty of fold equity. 8bbs or less is when min-r pre-flop becomes bad because if we do decide to min-r fold then we're left with a 6bb stack or less which is not going to leave us with much fold equity.

I don't know if I'd raise this hand pre though unless the table was playing really tight because A-rag is just a horrible hand to play. We can't call a shove and when we flop an A we're not that happy to be putting in much money. As played c-betting the flop is a must. If we were really strong (eg. we flopped a set of aces) then slow playing is OK but our hand is still somewhat vulnerable - not only that but we want to be getting value from worse hands. On the turn you had the right idea in raising, but your sizing was too small. Brass only needed to have 21% equity to call your 900 raise and that was before the overcall. He only needed 16% after that which means you're pricing in hands like flush draws to call. The pot was 2100 after villain bet so if you had made it 1900 you would have been making him make a big mistake by calling.