40NL - What Line to Take on River

Lambert180

^^^ As per title.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
60nine60	Small blind		£0.20	£0.20	£40.00
Lambert180	Big blind		£0.40	£0.60	£38.56
	Your hole cards	8 K
60nine60	Raise		£1.40	£2.00	£38.60
Lambert180	Call		£1.20	£3.20	£37.36
Flop
		9 4 5
Lambert180	Check
60nine60	Bet		£2.40	£5.60	£36.20
Lambert180	Raise		£6.00	£11.60	£31.36
60nine60	Call		£3.60	£15.20	£32.60
Turn
		K
Lambert180	Bet		£7.60	£22.80	£23.76
60nine60	Call		£7.60	£30.40	£25.00
River
		2

yb

happily ship for value against most people

LnarinOO

carry on ur story- u were bluffin the flop i presume to barrell off so why not include hands with added equity after u picked it up- it'll help for nxt time u want to bluff also - play consistantly-

F_Ivanovic

In Response to Re: 40NL - What Line to Take on River:

happily ship for value against most people
Posted by yb

Shipping for value seems incredibly thin and would require for some pretty aggresive dynamic which I don't think is going to be the case at this limit on sky... if the turn was a non spade K then there's definitely more logic in value shipping. It's still quite thin though because in general you don't see people raising flop and then barreling off with complete air all that often. But if you know villain can hero call it's definitely a line I would take.

As played I would probably c/f (or check back, I can't see hand atm so can't recall if we're IP or OOP) because I think it's too thin to value and we also have enough SD value to not bluff here. Folding to a bet because I don't think the avg villain will turn a hand into a bluff OTR (like QQ-TT)

Also not sure I like the flop raise so much. If we're raising flop with this hand then we're going to have way too many bluffs in our flop raising range as there are much better hands to bluff raise flop with. (ie. the K8s with a BDFD though - so you have more turns you can continue on)

rancid

under pot size, easy shove on river

LnarinOO

In Response to Re: 40NL - What Line to Take on River:

In Response to Re: 40NL - What Line to Take on River : Shipping for value seems incredibly thin and would require for some pretty aggresive dynamic which I don't think is going to be the case at this limit on sky... if the turn was a non spade K then there's definitely more logic in value shipping. It's still quite thin though because in general you don't see people raising flop and then barreling off with complete air all that often. But if you know villain can hero call it's definitely a line I would take. As played I would probably c/f (or check back, I can't see hand atm so can't recall if we're IP or OOP) because I think it's too thin to value and we also have enough SD value to not bluff here. Folding to a bet because I don't think the avg villain will turn a hand into a bluff OTR (like QQ-TT) Also not sure I like the flop raise so much. If we're raising flop with this hand then we're going to have way too many bluffs in our flop raising range as there are much better hands to bluff raise flop with. (ie. the K8s with a BDFD though - so you have more turns you can continue on)
Posted by F_Ivanovic

spot on

NColley

does villain always 4x pre? 

I'm not sure I'd do anything but fold on the flop vs his sizing. Your raise size was pretty poor imo. 

Pretty much agree with ivanovic regarding the rest of the hand.