30NL - OP Then Rivered Top Set 3-Way 150xBB deep

Lambert180

Flop should probably be a tad bigger but otherwise I think pre/flop/turn are standard it's just down to the river....

I was really torn about what to do on river, I have a pot sized bet left (pretty much) so seems a standard shove spot for value to get called by 2prs and smaller sets but people don't like calling off 100xBB shoves without the nuttaments.

What do you do?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Lambert180	Small blind		£0.15	£0.15	£39.84
joey690	Big blind		£0.30	£0.45	£35.10
	Your hole cards	Q Q
jd44	Fold
dontazeme	Fold
arthur1965	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£197.82
xxMick68xx	Fold
Lambert180	Raise		£1.05	£1.80	£38.79
joey690	Call		£0.90	£2.70	£34.20
arthur1965	Call		£0.90	£3.60	£196.92
Flop
		5 9 J
Lambert180	Bet		£2.10	£5.70	£36.69
joey690	Call		£2.10	£7.80	£32.10
arthur1965	Call		£2.10	£9.90	£194.82
Turn
		3
Lambert180	Bet		£6.20	£16.10	£30.49
joey690	Call		£6.20	£22.30	£25.90
arthur1965	Call		£6.20	£28.50	£188.62
River
		Q

LARSON7

I would bet about just over 50%/ 60% pot to get some value.

It's such a dry board, i can't see either calling a shove, unless they do indeed have a lower set, which it doesn't look like as played. In saying that what are they calling with, atleast one, AJ?

Is Aj calling a shove probably not, what reads do you have/? Would really be dependant on reads, if you felt you were getting paid by a shove, 50/60% bet you are probably getting value from atleast 1 opponent.

gazza127

I shove almost every day of the week (except tuesdays - I run really bad on tuesdays)

10 8 is really the only hand youre worried about.  K10 got there but theres no way K 10 is calling two streets here.

If he perks up with 10 8 its just a bit fat MEH and move on.

But yeah theres a bucket of hands that'd call a shove here.  Plus I think a shove looks a lot weaker than betting 40-60% when oppo knows you want a call.

rancid

maybe laugh and shove then cry a little

c/f obviously one has a straight

Lambert180

Yeah I'm not worried about being beat (although very occasionally I will be).

It felt like a standard ship pot because the pot is all set up for my PSB shove... but the more I think about it I reckon a lot of players will still think 'god that's a 100xBB shove, I wanna have the nuts to call a bet that big' even though it's a PSB.

Sets and 2pr are the most likely hands imo (and of course the odd weak 1pr, missed straight draws and straights).

rancid

u can bet like £13, all sets will shove on you unless they nits/weak tight and scared of straight
 - 1 pr/2prs will call

if u decide ya not b/f then if they have str - what ya gonna do

probs only sets/str calling shove - think it's highly likely one of them may have a str

u have no bluffs in your range on river so.....and neither do they......so.....


shove or £13 b/c


the more nit/weak tight they are I prob shove

if they capabe of shoving sets/2 prs over the top on river then b/c £13








think it's pretty close

Lambert180

Yeah think it should have been around the £13 mark, I regretted shoving as soon as I did it. I'm not bet/folding, if they have the str8 then meh.

FWIW, I shipped and got 2 big fat folds.

F_Ivanovic

I might check vs these two particular villains...but betting smallish can't be too bad.