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Mega stack game Is this ever a call here with king high
I beat alot of hands here to make it a call imo the large bet makes me think hes polarized
i beat alot of missed str8 draws and flush draws so is the call ok or even thinking about a call ok
kaman113Small blind30.0030.009860.00AdamBillBig blind 60.0090.009430.00 Your hole cardsK9 BUBBLYDANFold MEM796Call 60.00150.0010530.00IDONKCALLUCall 60.00210.009130.00kaman113Call 30.00240.009830.00AdamBillCheck Flop 68Q kaman113Check AdamBillCheck MEM796Bet 120.00360.0010410.00IDONKCALLURaise 420.00780.008710.00kaman113Fold AdamBillCall 420.001200.009010.00MEM796Fold Turn Q AdamBillCheck IDONKCALLUCheck River 4 AdamBillBet 840.002040.008170.00
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Strange line you've taken throughout the hand, limping then taking off with a non-nut draw in a still limped pot multi way.
Then wanting to slow down, then hero call w/ K high!
All very strange Donk.
Think he has Qx here way too much to make a call profitable. Probably has Queen 6.
No reason to think that opponents are going to make big pots post-flop in limped pots when you make big hands. Raise pre-flop and c-bet to take down a medium-sized pot. If we hit big we can still get paid.
To make a big pot in a limped pot we need a) to hit our big hand (flush, straight, trips, two-pair) which is pretty unlikely, and either b) our opponents to also make a big hand that we beat or c) our opponent to hit a small hand and get really carried away.
The above scenario is far less likely than i) hitting a marginal, one-pair hand and having trouble determining if we're best multi-way in a limped pot, possibly paying off better hands or folding to worse ones ii) missing completely and just giving up, iii) hitting a big hand and not getting paid since our opponents have missed, iv) being raised off the hand pre-flop or v) calling a raise and folding to c-bets when we miss/paying off c-bets against better hands.
There are some justifications for limping in what you've said: Playing in position against weaker players, post-flop. That's good, especially if you know they'll pay you off big with marginal hands on boards you smash. Why raise players out of the hands pre-flop if you know they'll call down light post-flop?
However, did you really know that here? Did you know these particular players are folding to raises lots pre-flop and calling down light post-flop? Your opinion seems to be (and correct me if I'm wrong) that we can be limping in to pots in late position, just because it's early in the tournament and we have lots of big blinds. If that's the case, you'll have to answer why that's a better strategy than raising and c-betting lots of flops.
We hit our hand just as often when we raise as we do when we limp. However, raising pre-flop lets us win more pots more often, and doesn't hinder our attempts to build big pots with our big hands because we're up against stronger ranges than multi-way limped pots. Besides that, in tournament poker we're not going to have such big post-flop edges on our opponents as in cash because we're not as familiar with them.
So raise pre-flop.
Don't call the river. We need to be beating 29% of his range... we don't even beat his Ax, KJ, KT bluffs.
limping a long pre and hoping you cooler someone or flop lucky is not great poker
not raising pre is not small ball poker
small ball poker is winning smaller pots with mimimum risk
you are not doing that
whatever justification you have, it just don't wash
you limped to hopefully hit a flushy or 2 prs or w/e - just like the other 90% of passive fish
Also... can I get odds from someone on this hand being up here cos he did call and villian had JT or w/e
I'll give you odds of 1/10 on.
Na scratch that. Too much value.