Can I justify my turn raise or is this just awful?

gazza127

I can't work out if this is just awful awful play or if I got max value - perhaps being results orientated.

I instantly narrowed villains range to a draw after his raise on the flop.  He loves to trap with big hands, even on wet boards and he almost always raises draws even if in position.

So yeah... based on reads im 90% sure villain is drawing is this an OK play?

I know people will be like 'youre only getting called by better' etc but its one of those things where he is priced in for his draw after he decides to bet the turn, so he's definitely calling.  One of those things where if it goes check/call on the turn I may or may not get another penny from him on the river if it comes a blank.

And before people ask... I did think I was ahead so I wasnt turning my hand into a bluff.

Urgh I dunno.  Just awful?  Totally villain dependant on whether or not this is a +ev play?  Is it ever going to be a +ev play or am I just lolbad?

XX	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£99.50
gazza127	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£105.30
	Your hole cards	6 7
XX	Raise		£1.50	£3.00	£98.00
gazza127	Raise		£5.00	£8.00	£100.30
XX	Call		£4.00	£12.00	£94.00
Flop
		5 7 8
gazza127	Bet		£7.00	£19.00	£93.30
XX	Raise		£21.00	£40.00	£73.00
gazza127	Call		£14.00	£54.00	£79.30
Turn
		Q
gazza127	Check
XX	Bet		£37.00	£91.00	£36.00
gazza127	Raise		£74.00	£165.00	£5.30
XX	All-in		£36.00	£201.00	£0.00
gazza127	Unmatched bet		£1.00	£200.00	£6.30
XX	Show	K 6
gazza127	Show	6 7
River
		3
gazza127	Win	Pair of 7s	£199.00		£205.30

F_Ivanovic

Given reads this seems fine! When I first looked at the hand I did think wtf is going on on the turn :P

Lambert180

In Response to Can I justify my turn raise or is this just awful?:

I know people will be like 'youre only getting called by better' etc but its one of those things where he is priced in for his draw after he decides to bet the turn, so he's definitely calling.  One of those things where if it goes check/call on the turn I may or may not get another penny from him on the river if it comes a blank.
Posted by gazza127

Do you have reads then that he's never gonna bluff a missed draw on the river then?

gazza127

In Response to Re: Can I justify my turn raise or is this just awful?:

In Response to Can I justify my turn raise or is this just awful? : Do you have reads then that he's never gonna bluff a missed draw on the river then?
Posted by Lambert180

I'm not sure about this... which is why i was wondering if check/calling again would be better.  He may give up... he may not.

rancid

Not happy getting it in on the flop

Lambert180

Without reads on that aspect of his game, I'd prefer to assume that he isn't gonna c/r flop, barrel turn and then just give up, so I'd prefer to just flat and call the riv.

F_Ivanovic

In Response to Re: Can I justify my turn raise or is this just awful?:

Without reads on that aspect of his game, I'd prefer to assume that he isn't gonna c/r flop, barrel turn and then just give up, so I'd prefer to just flat and call the riv.
Posted by Lambert180

Villain has 36 behind and the pot is £127... I assume most players aren't going to bluff here as fold equity just seems so minimal. Rather just shove turn and force him to call it off there.

IDONKCALLU

id fold the turn but im a nit