An insight into low stakes Heads Up SNGS / Spin up from £50 playing anything...

benc

Always nice to be picking up hands and holding when taking shots.. will update again when i end this evening spin up is going okay, always the possibility i'll be bust come the next post though lol

benc	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£115.95
FITF3	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£21.46
	Your hole cards	A A
x	Call		£0.50	£1.25	£44.69
	Raise		£1.50	£2.75	£102.65
jules007	Fold
MACCA47	Fold
benc	Raise		£5.00	£7.75	£110.95
FITF3	Fold
x	Call		£4.75	£12.50	£39.94
SJspanky1	Call		£3.75	£16.25	£98.90
Flop
		9 3 K
benc	Bet		£8.50	£24.75	£102.45
x	Call		£8.50	£33.25	£31.44
SJspanky1	Fold
Turn
		5
benc	Bet		£33.25	£66.50	£69.20
x	All-in		£31.44	£97.94	£0.00
benc	Unmatched bet		£1.81	£96.13	£71.01
benc	Show	A A
x	Show	10 K
River
		9
benc	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 9s	£94.33		£165.34

benc

Today i donked off 2bis in a forum 4nl game always like to jump into them when i can but didn't last long, overplayed top pair and then got it aipf with Larson which is always good fun. Played a couple of sessions of 50nl with 200bb again feeling a bit more comfortable recognizing some regs and just enjoying each time i sit down.

Managed to make £120.39 at 50nl today which is an outrageous figure for me in a day, not doing anything fancy just trying to play solid poker and seem to be getting into some nice spots where my hands hold, i know it can't last forever but it's nice knowing now when i sit 200bb deep at 50nl i am freerolling with profit.

So over the past couple of days i have span up to £229.80 from the £50, funnily enough i didn't expect to get to this point anytime soon and now i am wondering the best course of action i think having started with the 50 it's best to just go with the spin up gamble and try see how far i get then my nerves will be tested a bit more if i hit a few hundred and could start to think about using it as a proper roll for specific stakes again e.g. multitabling 20nl or something. But just enjoying it at the moment, will post some of the hands i have had in a minute. Even if i lose £179.80 i'm still even thats always a nice place to be at!

Start £50
Current: £229.80

benc

This hand i just wondered whether my check back on turn seemed okay, the overbet on the river was because i felt he was value betting and a big overbet would look very bluffy/polarized on my part which might of been snapped off by alot of Ax hands- two pairs etc. Feel free to rip me to pieces i.e. should of bet turn, bet smaller river etc..

jayne155	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£54.60
SJspanky1	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£98.75
	Your hole cards	7 8
Chrissy_C	Fold
x	Raise		£1.50	£2.25	£104.37
benc	Raise		£4.00	£6.25	£121.96
CRABMAN54	Fold
jayne155	Fold
SJspanky1	Fold
x	Call		£2.50	£8.75	£101.87
Flop
		2 Q 7
x	Check
benc	Bet		£5.75	£14.50	£116.21
x	Call		£5.75	£20.25	£96.12
Turn
		J
x	Check
benc	Check
River
		A
x	Bet		£7.38	£27.63	£88.74
benc	Raise		£40.00	£67.63	£76.21
x	Fold
benc	Muck
benc	Win		£33.25		£109.46
benc	Return		£32.62	£1.76	£142.08

gracious

wow a £4 bet with 78s and then another 5.75 with a pair of 7s thats the kind of stuff you expect in freerolls not cash games

goldnballz

In Response to Re: An insight into low stakes Heads Up SNGS / Spin up from £50 playing anything...:

wow a £4 bet with 78s and then another 5.75 with a pair of 7s thats the kind of stuff you expect in freerolls not cash games
Posted by gracious

You're new to cash poker? Completely standard preflop & flop action. I prob bet the turn. Like the big bet on river, but I'm a cash fish

churchy18

In Response to Re: An insight into low stakes Heads Up SNGS / Spin up from £50 playing anything...:

In Response to Re: An insight into low stakes Heads Up SNGS / Spin up from £50 playing anything... : You're new to cash poker? Completely standard preflop & flop action. I prob bet the turn. Like the big bet on river, but I'm a cash fish
Posted by goldnballz

think i need too play some cash games if that is the standard!

really cant see how that hand merits such a high bet and then shove with 77!

no offence meant just cant figure out how that play pays off in the long run!

that hand too me goes straight in the bin.

gazza127

Yeah its pretty standard in cash to 3 bet a wider range of hands.  People abuse position in cash way more than MTTs.  Most players will C-bet about 90% of flops if they have position regardless if they hit or not.  He's still charging for draws and is quite possibly ahead at this point.

FWIW Churchy he doesnt shove just a pair of 7s.... he has a flush by the river.

And Ben... i like continueing to show strength on the turn by betting there too.  Don't mind the check back though.

CraigSG1

Hi Ben,

Just read your diary, and I will defo contribute to your hands. Shame I missed some of yours, had a few things to say. Maybe if you could give me insight on some of mine at same time?

Anyway, well done and enjoyed the read. What I will say is that every time I've took a shot at 25/50 and 5/10 I've run horribly. Running AK v set allin on flop AK5, set over setted twice and my flopped nut hands losing to runner runners. It's been pretty horrible. My point is now you have a great BR use it to play higher in your preferred discipline of HU. Still play cash but maybe drop to 5/10 MC tables. 

Also, would love to play you at some £2 HU's. I have a different HU strategy that I think works (well, it does for me) and would be great to get good practice against a good opponent. 

Craig

benc

@Gracious is the 3bet sizing too big then do you think? once i take this line i feel i have to cbet that board as well £5.75 is pretty standard i think between 1/2 and 3/4 pot. Funnily enough i'd probably just fold this in a freeroll so it's a play not even worthy of a freeroll! lol

@goldnballz glad you think it's standard, interesting that you and Gaz would sway with betting the turn it definetly was a close decision for me so glad i've got some input about it.

@Churchy118 i overbet the river as i have hit a backdoor flush (although i think it would of been a pretty sick bluff with just the pair of 7s lol)  and i think that river will have improved alot of my oppos 3bet flatting range, his bet looks like it's asking to be paid off suggesting he is value betting something decent and i might get paid off.

@gazza127 thanks for the input/explanation. Yeah i wasn't too sure about the check back, felt like i could improve alot by the river, didn't want to be raised on the turn and be put in a spot where i would have to fold, also by checking back can maybe find a call if a blank falls and oppo bets out but i guess that would be thin/stationy because i'm so used to HU.

@Craig yeah that is good advice and someone else said something similar could have a go at playing a fair amount of £10/£21 standard hu and that would probably be the sensible thing to do. I will continue to gamble a bit more but if i get much higher than i will think about practising standard bankroll management again, and i'm up for playing HU sometime just search me out on the tables or message me in here and if we are both about we can play some games. GL at the tables.

benc

Been up and down the last few days not played that much but still enough for the roll to have seung up and down a bit, i'm up since i last posted though and have nearly 5xed my initial 50 in the last few days so happy with that. Had a decent session today, have mixed in a fair few HU but the majority of play has still been at 50nl did sit at 100nl for a little bit today but was soon left with just a table of regs and felt a bit out of my depth with my entire roll at the table lol...

Start (23/12/13) : £50
Current: £246.86

Would be nice to have a few days spell like that more often it has to be said, i'm still yet to be on the end of any coolers though which is inevitable and would dent my roll quite badly seeing as i like to sit 200bb deep at 50nl, am feeling a bit more comfortable playing them stakes now though, maybe a bit cautious in some spots but bound to happen. The spin up continues though, didn't expect it to last even an evening with 1bi but now im approaching 5 it might be time to move up! lol it's all good fun though will just carry on 1 tabling 50nl playing a bit of HU and hope i can avoid a bad day which would leave me bust.

Will search my history now and just post some of the bigger pots won and lost last couple of days.

benc

This player was a bit crazy had shown down some very odd hands but had yet to 3bet so i was happy to see a flop in position rather than 4bet and maybe have to get it in pre flipping with a pair he was willing to gamble with or dominating me. Flop i felt comfortable i had the best hand and could get value from a ton of hands in his 3betting range that would call that flop i.e all pairs like 7+ Ax hands. Turn obv meant AQ and Qs got there which i felt was realistic part of his 3betting range but when he didnt lead out or check raise i ruled that out (based on how he played previous hands) and then river i felt  like again he is leading out an Qx hand as well so pretty much value betting against Ks and all his Ax hands didn't expect 10s but wasn't all that surprising in relation to some other showdowns.

GIVEITSOME	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£91.25
x	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£102.89
	Your hole cards	A K
margal21	Fold
benc	Raise		£1.50	£2.25	£128.21
andygargon	Fold
billytheki	Fold
GIVEITSOME	Fold
x	Raise		£3.50	£5.75	£99.39
benc	Call		£2.50	£8.25	£125.71
Flop
		A 4 5
x	Bet		£3.00	£11.25	£96.39
benc	Raise		£8.50	£19.75	£117.21
x	Call		£5.50	£25.25	£90.89
Turn
		Q
x	Check
benc	Bet		£15.00	£40.25	£102.21
x	Call		£15.00	£55.25	£75.89
River
		Q
x	Check
benc	Bet		£25.00	£80.25	£77.21
x	Call		£25.00	£105.25	£50.89

This one i obviously flop a pretty big draw, nearly gave up on the river but felt like draws made up such a large part of his range and that he was very likely to have raised any J on the flop, or he would have middle pair type hands that wouldn't withold the pressure of a third barrell but wasn't to be, glad i can pull the trigger playing this level though which is important as i have to be able to play close to my natural game.

eroxas	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£18.14
liamboi11	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£99.50
	Your hole cards	10 A
benc	Raise		£1.50	£2.25	£169.27
x	Call		£1.50	£3.75	£75.83
billytheki	Fold
GIVEITSOME	Fold
eroxas	Fold
liamboi11	Fold
Flop
		J 7 9
benc	Bet		£2.00	£5.75	£167.27
x	Call		£2.00	£7.75	£73.83
Turn
		4
benc	Bet		£4.50	£12.25	£162.77
x	Call		£4.50	£16.75	£69.33
River
		5
benc	Bet		£12.50	£29.25	£150.27
x	Call		£12.50	£41.75	£56.83
benc	Show	10 A
x	Show	K J
x	Win	Pair of Jacks	£39.95		£96.78

Few others i wont explain though processes behind but was nice to be right in quite marginal spots based on reads/instinct.

hhamza162	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£50.00
benc	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£103.79
x	Big blind		£0.50	£1.25	£203.74
	Your hole cards	A 6
shawsok	Fold
x	Check
dazed1	Fold
hhamza162	Call		£0.25	£1.50	£49.75
benc	Check
Flop
		A 6 10
hhamza162	Check
benc	Check
x	Bet		£1.75	£3.25	£201.99
hhamza162	Fold
benc	Call		£1.75	£5.00	£102.04
Turn
		J
benc	Check
x	Bet		£5.25	£10.25	£196.74
benc	Call		£5.25	£15.50	£96.79
River
		K
benc	Check
x	Bet		£15.75	£31.25	£180.99
benc	Call		£15.75	£47.00	£81.04
x	Show	K 6
benc	Show	A 6
benc	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and 6s	£45.45		£126.49

JJ0001	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£199.50
lynx3ffect	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£199.00
	Your hole cards	Q Q
jdandcoke2	Fold
paddy1988	Fold
benc	Raise		£3.00	£4.50	£146.20
x	Call		£3.00	£7.50	£155.44
JJ0001	Fold
lynx3ffect	Fold
Flop
		A 3 5
benc	Bet		£4.00	£11.50	£142.20
x	Call		£4.00	£15.50	£151.44
Turn
		8
benc	Check
x	Bet		£9.00	£24.50	£142.44
benc	Call		£9.00	£33.50	£133.20
River
		5
benc	Check
x	Bet		£15.00	£48.50	£127.44
benc	Call		£15.00	£63.50	£118.20
x	Show	2 K
benc	Show	Q Q
benc	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 5s	£61.70		£179.90

This one is a really advanced play based on various mathematical theories, basically you just flat pre with a really bad hand for no reason what so ever other , donk the flop and then play it pretty badly post before scooping a decent pot and convicing yourself that the play was entirely justifiable. To the guy who said my play was like what you would see ina  freeroll, i think it would be an insult to those games to compare in this instance, SPIN UP CONTINUES THOUGH. I'm sure the sharks will be circling to come take my money after seeing this hand..

walks2311	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£199.02
shawsok	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£215.91
	Your hole cards	10 3
x	Call		£0.50	£1.25	£255.50
dazed1	Fold
benc	Call		£0.50	£1.75	£105.35
walks2311	Fold
shawsok	Raise		£2.00	£3.75	£213.91
x	Call		£2.00	£5.75	£253.50
benc	Call		£2.00	£7.75	£103.35
Flop
		10 9 3
shawsok	Check
x	Bet		£3.88	£11.63	£249.62
benc	Raise		£9.00	£20.63	£94.35
shawsok	Fold
x	Call		£5.12	£25.75	£244.50
Turn
		J
x	Check
benc	Check
River
		6
x	Check
benc	Bet		£20.00	£45.75	£74.35
x	Call		£20.00	£65.75	£224.50
benc	Show	10 3
x	Muck	K 9
benc	Win	Two Pairs, 10s and 3s	£63.95		£138.30