Line check

gazza127

gazza127	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£162.41
x	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£108.70
	Your hole cards	6 A
gazza127	Raise		£0.75	£1.50	£161.66
x	Raise		£2.50	£4.00	£106.20
gazza127	Call		£2.00	£6.00	£159.66
Flop
		6 9 J
x	Bet		£3.50	£9.50	£102.70
gazza127	Call		£3.50	£13.00	£156.16
Turn
		6
x	Bet		£7.50	£20.50	£95.20
gazza127	Call		£7.50	£28.00	£148.66
River
		A
x	Check
gazza127	Bet		£40.50	£68.50	£108.16
x	Call		£40.50	£109.00	£54.70
gazza127	Show	6 A
x	Muck	J Q
gazza127	Win	Full House, 6s and Aces	£108.00		£216.16

Thoughts on line against a solid reg?  Obviously river bet was paid off cause i've polarised my bet hugely playing on the fact that no draws came in, representing one of the many missed straight draws.

However question is, against a solid (quite tight) reg is there any value in raising the turn and barrelling river or is the line ive taken OK?

alex1229

I cant  comment because that hand would have been mucked pre flop to me

chicknMelt

post flop I think you played it perfectly...

A raise on the turn would represent exactly what you have - a 6, a full house, or air. i much prefer to flat the turn then overbet the river than rr on the turn because it keeps your range alot wider.

the only question I have is whether you should be calling a 3bet with an offsuit raggy ace... even if it is in position.

gazza127

In Response to Re: Line check:

post flop I think you played it perfectly... A raise on the turn would represent exactly what you have - a 6, a full house, or air. i much prefer to flat the turn then overbet the river than rr on the turn because it keeps your range alot wider. the only question I have is whether you should be calling a 3bet with an offsuit raggy ace... even if it is in position.
Posted by chicknMelt

Oh yeah... definitely.  His 3 bet range was widening minute by minute.  The only question was whether I should 4 bet or not.  Im happy to call with Ax IP in this spot v a fair few villains in HU.  I can always represent something better later on...

Lambert180

Very easy fold pre with an off suit rag ace facing a 3bet from a solid reg.

out of interest, before you hit perfect perfect, what is your plan when you call the flop?

Lambert180

In Response to Re: Line check:

In Response to Re: Line check : Oh yeah... definitely.  His 3 bet range was widening minute by minute.  The only question was whether I should 4 bet or not.  Im happy to call with Ax IP in this spot v a fair few villains in HU.  I can always represent something better later on...
Posted by gazza127

you said he was solid/tight

hhyftrftdr

So we are just insta mucking raggy aces HU, in position, when 3bet by a ''solid reg''?

BorinLoner

Staggered you got a call on that river bet, to be honest. Doesn't look tight to me, having seen that. Have we taken this line as a bluff before and shown?

Which weak hands do we rep when we raise the turn? QT? Air?

If not, we'd just be turning our hand over with a raise. Tough to rep any one-pair hands on a dry board, given pre-flop action.

Think you played it fine, assuming your river bet isn't polarised to only strong hands. You've not told us anything about your image. You got a call, though, so... must be fine.

gazza127

In Response to Re: Line check:

Very easy fold pre with an off suit rag ace facing a 3bet from a solid reg. out of interest, before you hit perfect perfect, what is your plan when you call the flop?
Posted by Lambert180

Reassess turn...

Simple as that.  Hard to say as its entirely dependant on which card comes down and what action is given to me...

But disagree with folding pre.  Just because he is 'solid'  doesn't mean his 3 bet range is narrow.  It just means he is a good player who gives very little.  3 betting was occuring about 15-20% of hands during the session IMO.

BorinLoner

Playing over 200BB effective, this has to be the nittiest of players for me to fold my button to a 6bb 3-bet.

"...solid (quite tight) reg" isn't the deepest of reads, to be fair. What we're used to in these parts, of course.

Lambert180

In Response to Re: Line check:

So we are just insta mucking raggy aces HU, in position, when 3bet by a ''solid reg''?
Posted by hhyftrftdr

imo to a tight player mostly yes, when we're opening a lot there are so many better hands to peel. also a lot of reverse implied odds imo against tight regs. If we can call this profitably, I'd say they're obv not that tight

hhyftrftdr

In Response to Re: Line check:

In Response to Re: Line check : imo to a tight player mostly yes, when we're opening a lot there are so many better hands to peel. also a lot of reverse implied odds imo against tight regs. If we can call this profitably, I'd say they're obv not that tight
Posted by Lambert180

Peel if its suited Lambert?

gazza127

Standard 'ask about post flop play... criticized about preflop play' post.

Sigh.

gazza127

In Response to Re: Line check:

Staggered you got a call on that river bet, to be honest. Doesn't look tight to me, having seen that. Have we taken this line as a bluff before and shown? Which weak hands do we rep when we raise the turn? QT? Air? If not, we'd just be turning our hand over with a raise. Tough to rep any one-pair hands on a dry board, given pre-flop action. Think you played it fine, assuming your river bet isn't polarised to only strong hands. You've not told us anything about your image. You got a call, though, so... must be fine.
Posted by BorinLoner

Many times over the months.  I have quite the table image.

chicknMelt

In Response to Re: Line check:

In Response to Re: Line check : Many times over the months.  I have quite the table image.
Posted by gazza127

yes having played with Gazza a couple of times I can completely understand why he was called on the river.

I'm still not convinced by the peel pre, I think I'd prefer a 4bet. As Lambo said, reverse implied odds and a lack of nuttyness make this a horrible hand. Since you have a blocker ace, I'd be 4betting. I'd peel with hands that flop better.

alex1229

In Response to Re: Line check:

Standard 'ask about post flop play... criticized about preflop play' post. Sigh.
Posted by gazza127

Post flop it plays itself - Call on the flop is bit dubuious, but understandable, after that its ABC topped off by a donk call on the river by the fish across the table from you

77Chris91

Pre - Peeling is a bit meh, 200bb deep so not so bad. Can defend with a lot of better hands though imo.

Flop, Turn - Standard (Don't raise turn to answer your question lol)

River - Cool shove bro

Edit: Long day at work - Nice river bet lol!

F_Ivanovic

Lambert just for future reference Solid =/ tight. You can quite happily be a solid LAG In fact solid just means good, capable of moves. Some tight players aren't that capable of making moves.

Lambert180

Tbf he did say quite tight in the OP

F_Ivanovic

oops missed that!

gazza127

FWIW the 'quite tight' bit is only going by 6 max play.  I've never played them HU before... but they were definitely playing a wider range HU (as you'd expect).