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Cash points payout so low?
Am i the only one who thinks that since theyve changed the payout system its a joke?
This aint a winge or what not and i know ppl will be saying its free take it bla bla but you try play most days 14 hour days then get back to me.
Anway just been on phone to priority about the cash return as i check it every month just to see what the return is as its all fluffed if you ask me.
20,000 im on the return £511? now i think this is shocking big time when last year it would have been nerly double that return and hearing that honestly just makes me not want to grind anymore ,
I know you should play for profit which i do but the cash return is always a big incentive to grind or otherwise i wouldnt do the hours i do.
But just feel that the payouts now are so bad compared to before that it isnt worth actually goin for the big scores anymore.
Anyone care to put there input on this
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This is good news for you because it keeps the poker economy healthy, and most of that money will still trickle up to those at the top of the pyramid anyway.
Bending over backwards to keep the relatively small number of high volume grinders happy while neglecting the vast majority of players who are low volume net depositors would be a disasterous policy, the games would eventually dry up. The more balanced way the rakeback cake is sliced up is much fairer now than it was before imo.
Tournament fields have been growing lately and several guarantees have been increased. I'm convinced the switch from C4P to Rewards is partly responisble for this. I don't play cash, so I have no idea if the cash player pool has also seen similar growth. I'd be surprised if it hasn't.
kidwiz how you get that much return for 20k pp
I made 22600 point in December and only got a return of 460.77 which I think is pathetic btw
If only a handful of these players then grow to love the game, deposit, talk to friends, make more people play, more people deposit. Happy days.
I think lambert180 wrote a post a few weeks ago explaining how the rewards system works now so if he reads this he might be able to bump it for you mate.
What also needs to be considered is the number of players who now have a 2nd/new account to pick up on the rake bonus they were going to miss otherwise.
Does make you wonder how much of the cut to c4p has gone to RTR players and not too the lowly rec <500 point players.
I am all for taking a cut in rakeback to feed the bottom of the ladder but seriously it does seem a bit skewed.
Funny how to attract new players you either say ok have lots of % rakeback or just a little cause it's more than what you was getting before. Bit weird on one hand you discourage heavy rakeback grinders by lowering the rewards but on the other hand hand out a large % to RTR players to encourage heavy rakeback grinders to the site. You see how I think it's a bit skewed in favour of new customers. But Sky would say we should be thankful cause they are trying to bring in new players via these two routes. Well make your mind up, are you trying to attract new players at the bottom of the ladder <500 points or high rakeback grinders.
I think every reg would welcome the addition of new blood but not high rakeback grinders. So I fail to see how we as regs are so much better off under the new rewards system. I see new names appearing but these ain't new recs, they are grinders. Hopefully time we tell over the next two months, we will see if it's worked or not.
I don't blame DTM if he goes and plays eleswhere if the cut in rakeback is £5k a year. I doubt everyone would be a bit upset with a £5k a year pay cut and would probably seek work elsewhere.
https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby/poker-promotions/priority?dcmp=p_pr_prio
once you reach 10,000 the amount of rakeback you then receive will be based on if you played cash or MTT/SNG's
cash = 6 points for every £1 in rake
MTT/SMG's=10 points for every £1 in rake
so say you get 11,000
100% cash would be £366
100% SNG/MTT would be £220
50/50 would be £293
^ subject to change
If it's under 10k then you can work out exactly what you'll get from the Sky Rewards promo page and game choice is irrelevant.
Over 10k....
If you play cash games, divide your points by 7 (to allow for some happy hours), that's how many £ rake you've paid and you get 20% sooo 10k points / 7 = £1428 rake paid so you get about £285
If you play SnG/MTTs, divide your points by 10, that's how many £ rake you've paid and you get 20% sooo 10k / 10 = £1000 rake paid so you get £200 back.
If you play a mixture... well gl working it out lol. Just weight your calcs more towards the game you play most of as per above.
/>10,000 your getting 20% on rake you have contributed
So when cash players have to contribute more £'s to get more points, that's why they get more rakeback cause it's based on % once you pass 10,000 points.
so it's swings and roundabouts
it's a fair system but actually is biased towards SNG/MTT players before you get to 10,000
great incentive imo to play SNG/MTT's up to 10,000
you got to remember that if you playing cash below 10,000 you have to pay more in rake to acheive the same points as an SNG/MTT player.
good luck