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Got a year yet - help/advice needed.

edited February 2014 in Poker Chat
I'm not very good at typing long paragraphs or anything like that so i guess i'll just get straight to the point lol.

I turned 20 yesterday, had a good night got drunk can't remember half of it and all of that stuff(lol). Anyway my mum told me she couldn't think of anything to get me for my birthday so i suggested she could give me half the money she won in the stock market exchange thing with bitcoin a while ago (£5,000) so i could put it in poker along with what i already have saved up the now. To my surprise she agreed but i stopped her and said i'll wait another year yet until i'm 21 to do it, so gives me an extra year of preperation etc.

I doubt any of you lot really know me, what i'm like and stuff like that.. well to put it bluntly i am a lazy *******, never wanted to go out get a job/education and earn my own money, become independent or anything like that, i've never had motivation to do anything in life until poker came along. So basically it's either i play poker for a living or i'm screwed lol.

I first started playing poker a few months after i turned 18.. on that zynga for a while and then i started going to pub poker nights around my area (5 nights a week nuts poker league its called) i've been going all the time for the past 16 months now, came top of my regional every season, won 5 venue trophies and recently i just won the champion of champions end of season final game to qualify for the naitonal final in Stoke again. But that's just pub poker, standard of play there is shocking, i mainly go to socialise and have a laugh etc while at the same time improving my game every day.

Started playing online poker about a year ago i think, took a while to get used to it but i love it now. Tried out all of the different sites and i've stuck with titan poker for now. I started off with just £120 (30BIs for 4nl) and i've been up and down ever since, most of my losses have came from gambling problems to do with blackjack etc but i've got that under control now so it's all good. Currently from poker i'm up over £1,000 or something like that, i did keep track of my winnings/losses but i lost the document and the fact i keep withdrawing doesn't help me figure it out lol.

At the moment i still just play 5nl and 10nl, speed hold'em poker which means i can play like 1,000 hands per hour, i love it there lol. But obviously when i turn 21 i'll have more money to play with, i'll keep £1,000 to one side in case it all goes wrong and play with the rest (so will be about 6-7k in total i'm hoping)

Basically just anyone who has any tips or advice for me would be much appreciated, i've got a whole year yet so time is on my side i guess lol. I've probably missed a lot of information out like i said i'm no good at writing long paragraphs so any questions feel free to ask.
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  • edited February 2014


    Spend the year playing/studying as much as possible, ditch the pub league and play more online (or real money live games).

    Stop withdrawing money and move up to nl20 and nl30 as and when your bankroll permits. If you can't grind a roll up to play nl30 within a year then you're either not good enough or not committed enough to do it at all.

    You did the right thing delaying it a year, now prove to yourself that the 5k isn't going to be wasted before you accept it. 

    Happy Bday for yesterday! (and prepare for some strong opinions to follow on this thread! :P)

  • edited February 2014
    I can't ditch the pub league, it's brilliant haha. Besides i'm never awake until like 4pm, by the time i get out of bed get ready and stuff it's time to go out to the pub lol. I play online during the night, i'm always awake until like 7-8am.

    Yeah i know i should stop withdrawing, main reason i do it is to make sure i don't fall back into my old ways of playing blackjack with a lot of money in my account and losing it all lol. If i didn't withdraw or lose money at blackjack i'd be well rolled for 20-30nl no problem.
  • edited February 2014


    Well ok, I meant play more online, if you can find time to do that without ditching the pub league then that's all good.

    Set volume targets, try and play as much as possible. Something like 4/5 hours per day, 6 days a week for 2 months. See how you do and how you feel after that.

    If you can't trust yourself to leave a modest 20nl bankroll in your poker account how are you going to play with 5 grand?

    Something to work on over the next 364 days!

  • edited February 2014
    Yeah good idea i'll keep that in mind, and i guess i can trust myself now to be honest it's just a habit of withdrawing lol. I got a special request on titan that allows me to still play poker but have my casino games disabled, it took a while to sort that out since it used to be the poker would be disabled as well as the casino games, so even if i wanted to there is no way i can possibly go back to losing on blackjack haha.
  • edited February 2014
    gl life is good:D

    haha

    I'm just waiting for the usual replies... lol

    Would love to have all my dinners cooked again:D Must be nice.

    Keep learning and improving b4 next year, but 5ks a lot! You should say "ma, 1k, go on holiday with the rest"

    But then who'd cook your food and do the washin?
  • edited February 2014
    Yeah i actually cooked my own dinner today believe it or not, chicken soup was delicious ;) lol.

    I promised my mum i'd take her on a cruise if i'm successful haha so there you go i've got a heart see :p

     
  • edited February 2014
    never wanted to go out get a job/education and earn my own money, become independent or anything like that, i've never had motivation to do anything in life until poker came along

    What is it about poker that makes a difference? Working life can be incredibly varied and wherever you start there is always a path upward which becomes easier to achieve the more you enjoy your work.

    I wish you all the best, but personally I'm not a fan of getting bankrolled by mum to see if I can spin it up into a sustainable wage. You'll need to be honest with yourself about the rate of progression you're going to need to say become independent in the next 10 years or whatever, allowing for variance and acknowledging that the vast majority of players go broke at some point unless they have very strict BRM. Life's much easier if you have steady income and a bit of a float to play with on top.

    GL.
  • edited February 2014
    Not just because Dohhhh wrote about strong opinions.

    Grow up. Stop leeching of your Mum. I have been around here long enough to remember your previous diaries.
    Pretty disgusting stuff.

    Get a job. 
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    Get a job. 
    Posted by Jac35
    Wish i had a penny for every person who's said that to me, then i could get the 5k myself lol. Not going to happen though, absolutely no chance. Poker is my only chance i have of living a life that would keep me happy, why should i do something that i don't want to do, that will depress me etc when i don't even need to do it right now lol?
  • edited February 2014
    Very, very sad
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    Very very sad
    Posted by Jac35
    Actually i'm very very happy lol.
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    Not just because Dohhhh wrote about strong opinions. Grow up. Stop leeching of your Mum. I have been around here long enough to remember your previous diaries. Pretty disgusting stuff. Get a job. 
    Posted by Jac35
    big +1

    its tilting just reading this again, yes I do remember the last thread on this topic cant muster up a proper reply as i'll likely only send myself over the edge.

    totally disgusting attitude to life in general
  • edited February 2014
    Yeah this topic isn't supposed to be about how i live my life or anything, that's my problem not anyone else's lol.
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed. : Wish i had a penny for every person who's said that to me, then i could get the 5k myself lol. Not going to happen though, absolutely no chance. Poker is my only chance i have of living a life that would keep me happy, why should i do something that i don't want to do, that will depress me etc when i don't even need to do it right now lol?
    Posted by skeg01
    Oh Christ.

    You do realise that in the grand scheme of things, £5k is nothing? If you worked for the minimum wage full time you'd have that and more within a year? Shouldn't be much to get depressed about by working hard and seeing the fruits of your labour. Living is expensive and depressing whichever route you go. Don't disappoint your poor old mamma.
  • edited February 2014
    Just stick the 5k on black imo
  • edited February 2014
    i hope you make it as a pro skeg, as you know though its a pipedream for most. dont take this the wrong way but my advice to you would be to seriously go and see a doctor, if you have no urgency to do anything in life apart from play cards then i think you could be depresssed and it will only get worse if you dont seek help, best of luck!!!
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    i hope you make it as a pro skeg, as you know though its a pipedream for most. dont take this the wrong way but my advice to you would be to seriously go and see a doctor, if you have no urgency to do anything in life apart from play cards then i think you could be depresssed and it will only get worse if you dont seek help, best of luck!!!
    Posted by THEROCK573
    All jokes aside...

    Big +1 to this
  • edited February 2014
    If I had £5k in bitcoins I'd be on silk road not ipoker.
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    i hope you make it as a pro skeg, as you know though its a pipedream for most. dont take this the wrong way but my advice to you would be to seriously go and see a doctor, if you have no urgency to do anything in life apart from play cards then i think you could be depresssed and it will only get worse if you dont seek help, best of luck!!!
    Posted by THEROCK573

    Not often that I agree with The Rocks but here he/she is spot on. You sound like you have serious life issues. So what happens if you're not good enough to make a living from poker? I know how difficult it is to get a job, but to write the world of gainful employment off like you seem to have, makes me sad (and angry if the country ever has to support you in terms of benefits)
  • edited February 2014
    What advice do you wan't, you're happy with your life, leaching of your mum, getting up at 4pm, not wanting a job.
    If you make it to 40, and manage to get married you will have a lot to tell your kids about your life, if they see you.


    ADVICE Just carry on living life to the full.
  • edited February 2014
    Skeg, I have no advice for you on how to make yourself into a poker pro.

    I doubt you need me to tell you to ignore some of the stupid comments on this thread. People enjoy being smug and feeling morally superior and few actually care to consider the circumstances which have brought you to this point.
  • edited February 2014
    No advice at all? For example say once i have the money i will be rolled for a much higher stakes than i've ever played before, should i just dive straight in or take it slowly gradually getting the hang of it moving up the levels etc? After all i'll still only be 21 when i start this, i don't really need to make a living wage or anything until maybe a few years afterwards.

    Don't know why everyone assumes i'm depressed or something lol, i'm not depressed just yet, my life is amazing there isn't a day that goes by when i'm not happy lol. I'll only become depressed if i do have to get a job or become independent in the future etc. Adult life just isn't for me i've known that since i was like 13. But right now the way it is at the minute my life is brilliant, and i'm happy as anything.
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    Skeg, I have no advice for you on how to make yourself into a poker pro. I doubt you need me to tell you to ignore some of the stupid comments on this thread. People enjoy being smug and feeling morally superior and few actually care to consider the circumstances which have brought you to this point.
    Posted by BorinLoner
    Well said mate! was going to write something very similar, good luck at the tables treat every upswing the same as a downswing!
    Seems like its a big boys club mocking a newbie quite often on this site at the moment

  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    No advice at all? For example say once i have the money i will be rolled for a much higher stakes than i've ever played before, should i just dive straight in or take it slowly gradually getting the hang of it moving up the levels etc? After all i'll still only be 21 when i start this, i don't really need to make a living wage or anything until maybe a few years afterwards. Don't know why everyone assumes i'm depressed or something lol, i'm not depressed just yet, my life is amazing there isn't a day that goes by when i'm not happy lol. I'll only become depressed if i do have to get a job or become independent in the future etc. Adult life just isn't for me i've known that since i was like 13. But right now the way it is at the minute my life is brilliant, and i'm happy as anything.
    Posted by skeg01
    You don't really need telling that diving straight in would be silly surely Skeg?

    That's why I said use this year you have to try and bridge the gap between the stakes/volume you play now and the stakes/volume you want to play in the future.

    Can def relate to the stuff you are saying in this thread btw, you've put off receiving the money not because you need a year to improve, but you cba to start working hard at poker just yet, so you leave it abit.

    Done exactly the same :P
  • edited February 2014
    fwiw I actually believe that you are loving life right now.

    Why accept the responsibility of receiving a 5k gift and have to work hard and commit to something when you can defer it and continue living a stress free chilled out life, knowing you have it to fall back on? :D

    Maybe the stuff people are speculating about in this thread will come a few years down the line. Hopefully not.

    Think it should be kept as a poker thread though.
  • edited February 2014
    Good afternoon Skeg.
    Use the £5000 to play the £2.20 @2.20 DEEPSTACKS, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PLAY 2272.72 GAMES.
    All the best.
    Rainman397
  • edited February 2014
    I gave you some advice  on my diary recently but yeah from a purely poker point of view if you really do wanna take it seriously then Dohhh has covered most of it.

    Imo I would...

    1) Find a different site to play cash on (that isn't ipoker).
    2) Stop wasting your time on speed poker. From everything I've read over the months of you posting, it sounds like all you do is sit at speed poker just nut peddling vv strong hands which may be enough to win at very low stakes but even at low stakes your winrate won't be as good as it could be, and your winrate will only go down as you move up.
    3) Work really hard on your game.
    4) Put a ton of volume in.
    5) Start keeping records again of your profit/loss.
    6) Stop withdrawing and start moving up to 10/20NL and onwards when you're rolled to do so.

    If you do all those things and you're actually good enough, then you should be rolled enough to play for a living off your own £££ within 12 months without even needing the £5k, especially as by the sounds of it you're not in a rush to move out so you're living costs will be far lower than most.
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    No advice at all? For example say once i have the money i will be rolled for a much higher stakes than i've ever played before, should i just dive straight in or take it slowly gradually getting the hang of it moving up the levels etc? After all i'll still only be 21 when i start this, i don't really need to make a living wage or anything until maybe a few years afterwards. Don't know why everyone assumes i'm depressed or something lol, i'm not depressed just yet, my life is amazing there isn't a day that goes by when i'm not happy lol. I'll only become depressed if i do have to get a job or become independent in the future etc. Adult life just isn't for me i've known that since i was like 13. But right now the way it is at the minute my life is brilliant, and i'm happy as anything.
    Posted by skeg01
    i didnt assume you were depressed, looks a good possiblilty from an outsider looking in thats all, go see a doctor anyway cos u might not know u have it, you may just have some sort of illness like chronic fatique syndrome if you cant be bothered to get out of bed til 4.00pm. i find it funny though that you say you will become depressed if you have to become independant and get a job in the future -"GET IN THE REAL WORLD KID "
  • edited February 2014
    become a 30nl pro. sick life
  • edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Got a year yet - help/advice needed.:
    I gave you some advice  on my diary recently but yeah from a purely poker point of view if you really do wanna take it seriously then Dohhh has covered most of it. Imo I would... 1) Find a different site to play cash on (that isn't ipoker). 2) Stop wasting your time on speed poker. From everything I've read over the months of you posting, it sounds like all you do is sit at speed poker just nut peddling vv strong hands which may be enough to win at very low stakes but even at low stakes your winrate won't be as good as it could be, and your winrate will only go down as you move up. 3) Work really hard on your game. 4) Put a ton of volume in. 5) Start keeping records again of your profit/loss. 6) Stop withdrawing and start moving up to 10/20NL and onwards when you're rolled to do so. If you do all those things and you're actually good enough, then you should be rolled enough to play for a living off your own £££ within 12 months without even needing the £5k, especially as by the sounds of it you're not in a rush to move out so you're living costs will be far lower than most.
    Posted by Lambert180
    1) I was thinking of moving back to pokerstars soon anyway, once my account has been re-instated (i have banned myself from like almost every poker site apart from titan ages ago when my blackjack habit was at its worst lol, but i'll have my accounts back soon)

    2) I love speed poker though, i don't sit and wait for big hands or anything like that i play like i normally would on a normal cash table, but instead i play more hands per hour that's all. It took a while to get used to it obviously but it's normally the same people who play speed poker all the time so it's not too hard to make notes on players, understand the way they play etc as it would be on a normal table. (I normally 6table so it's about 1,000 hands per hour or so) - that experiment i done earlier was when i was a bit drunk so i haven't done it again even though i did win 50 quid from it lol.

    3) Yeah i will continue to do that lol.

    4) I'll try my best, some weeks i play over 60 hours and other weeks i only play for like 10 so maybe i will do a timetable or something along those lines so i can fit in a decent amount of hours per week.

    5) Will do.

    6) Good idea, i'll see what happens with my roll as i'm getting a bit sick of playing 5/10nl to be honest, it's just too easy haha.
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