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More value and should I have played this differently
I hope this is posted in the right place. I'm not sure if struggle is the right word but I certainly hate playing pocket pairs from 10's upwards from an early position. This example is perfect I reckon for some feedback. I was reading somehwere an opinion that you should try and keep your opening bet sizes pretty consistant to avoid giving away too much information. That said I rarely limp in (which seems to be an annoying habit at nl10 for some people, it get's pretty confusing when you get 4 limpers you raise them to 50p and they all call) I figure if I want to play my hole cards then everybody playing should be putting some money in. In this hand I'm in early position with KK, my thinking is that I obviously want customers so I don't want to bet and scare everyone off especially as I have been playing pretty tight after a couple of bad beats. I open for a pretty standard 3bb and the following happens.
Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
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jack100 | Small blind | | £0.05 | £0.05 | £10.11 |
basty2010 | Big blind | | £0.10 | £0.15 | £11.26 |
| Your hole cards | | | | |
streetdog | Raise | | £0.30 | £0.45 | £10.78 |
setoftrips | Fold | | | | |
Carnage | Fold | | | | |
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| Call | | £0.30 | £0.75 | £4.25 |
jack100 | Fold | | | | |
basty2010 | Fold | | | | |
Flop |
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streetdog | Check | | | | |
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| Check | | | | |
Turn |
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streetdog | Check | | | | |
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| Bet | | £0.75 | £1.50 | £3.50 |
streetdog | Call | | £0.75 | £2.25 | £10.03 |
River |
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streetdog | Bet | | £1.13 | £3.38 | £8.90 |
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| Raise | | £2.50 | £5.88 | £1.00 |
streetdog | Call | | £1.37 | £7.25 | £7.53 |
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| Show | | | | |
streetdog | Show | | | | |
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| Win | Straight to the 9 | £6.70 | | £7.70 |
I've blanked the villains name cos I'm not sure of the etiquette!
I'm not saying they did anything wrong or that I was robbed. At the end of the day I want people to call my KK and then be on a draw and miss it. My question is that out of position how do I get value? If I donk the flop it looks like I made a hand, so I check and they check behind. I gave them a free card and they hit a straight. After this when I check again and they bet I call thinking that they possibly had 55, 66 or 77 and I'm laughing. Then when I bet the river to try and bump the pot up a bit and get reraised it dawns on me that 89 was a possibility. I call because a smaller set could still be a real option and the reraise isn't that big.
Thoughts anyone?
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Comments
As played I'd have been concerned on the turn when he suddenly bets pot. You thought set but didn't raise. Why not? I guess in the long run it saved you. But I'd have been worried. If he just had a PP I'd have expected him to bet the flop. I would have been highly concenred he got the straight just based on his bet, as it looks like he got something and wants to build a pot as fast as he can.
As to your opening bet when first to act preflop. Your bet sizing should never change based on your hand strength. So raise with kings what you would with 77 or KJ. And on raising to limpers you should ideally raise 3xbb +1bb per limper. So if four people limp you want to raise to 70p really. If you raise lower to risk pricing them in to call. And once one does, they all will be priced in to call. Yes limping is dumb, and on sky it is done a lot, certainly at 10nl.