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ALL IN SATS - discussion thread

MAXALLYMAXALLY
edited March 2014 in Poker Chat


These all in sats are still popular and a great way for the lower BR players to get into some of the larger games. Players also play them for cash when they already have a seat locked up.

I would like to suggest a new way of running them though and see what folk think out there. 

PRIOR to the start of the target tournament - All players eligible to enter any all in sat.

AFTER the tournament has started - only players who are not actually in the event yet can enter these 'last chance' sats

I will admit that on more than one occasion I have been fortunate enough to get cash back after already being in a particular MTT so I am fully aware why players go down this route. 

The later all in sats will not even need a guaranteed seat included if they don't get enough runners to cover an entry cost.

Like I have said.....this is a DISCUSSION thread. What are your views?
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  • MohicanMohican
    edited March 2014
    I really like these. With 2 kids I'm unable to play a normal sat so I reg a fwe of these and hope. I don't see what difference stopping players already in the tournament playing as these players are likely to increase the size of the field so there's more seats/extra money available.
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  • Chris_McChris_Mc
    edited March 2014
    I think only players not registered should b able too reg for the all in sats.. But where do u draw the line. Then it will be only non reged players for the other sats semi's and such.

    and I know there are players out there who like this format and cash alot.

    I think anyone should be able too play sats but not all in sats. For players with my br sometimes I feell one or 2 trys for an all in sat is what I can afford. I would be dissapoinnted if someone won the seat and where allready registered but thats just my opinion.but on the other side it increases the field and opens more seats. 

    Would I be complaining if I won one.  Of course not. But this is the reason why I hace not reged for one if im the tournament. 
    The othrr sats I might play as there is normally more than one seat availble and u have too play too win. This is just my opinion tho.
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573
    edited March 2014
    allways overlay in the speedy bounty hunter sats at 10.30, i either run really good in them or there decent value

    SCHEDULED Hold'em NL   £2.75+£0.25    241   £2.2   £2.75   73.4%   £531  74   
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited March 2014


    To clarify, I am only on about ALL IN sats after a MTT has started. 
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ
    edited March 2014

    Keep them as they are imo.

    With the already registered players removed they probably won't get the numbers and will end up getting scrapped due to frequent overlay.

    If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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  • SlykllistSlykllist
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: ALL IN SATS - discussion thread:
    Keep them as they are imo. With the already registered players removed they probably won't get the numbers and will end up getting scrapped due to frequent overlay. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    This
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: ALL IN SATS - discussion thread:
    Keep them as they are imo. With the already registered players removed they probably won't get the numbers and will end up getting scrapped due to frequent overlay. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
    Posted by GaryQQQ

    Hence me stating in my OP about having them with no guarantee.

    Yes, not broken agreed but just suggesting a slight improvement in them to make it more attractive to the players without a seat to play them if they know it will be for a seat and not cash for other players.
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  • SlykllistSlykllist
    edited March 2014
    Yes, some people that enter these will already have a seat and it can seem unfair to those who don't.  However some of those will have bought in direct, essentially what your suggested changes would do is penalise those players from gaining a seat via satellite (which they are quite entitled to do) whilst still allowing others to do this.
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  • RossMcRossMc
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: ALL IN SATS - discussion thread:
    In Response to Re: ALL IN SATS - discussion thread : This
    Posted by Slykllist
    And I second, well third this!
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: ALL IN SATS - discussion thread:
    Yes, some people that enter these will already have a seat and it can seem unfair to those who don't.  However some of those will have bought in direct, essentially what your suggested changes would do is penalise those players from gaining a seat via satellite (which they are quite entitled to do) whilst still allowing others to do this.
    Posted by Slykllist

    Fair point, TY. My point though is more of IF they are already playing the event, then unless you are TRIP5, you should not need two seats :)

    Or put it like this.....you are playing in a live event somewhere and you decide to leave the table to try and qualify again for it in a live sat for it in another part of the casino. I know it is wrong to compare this scenario with live/on line but just trying to get my POV across.
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  • GlenelgGlenelg
    edited March 2014
    I voted for the staus quo.  How else am I expected to build a bank roll??  ;-)  FWIW I seem to run pretty good at these! 
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  • 12671267
    edited March 2014
    but where do we draw the line ?

    I'm playing the semi final.  theres 7 left and 5 seats on offer.  The last all-in is about to start ?  Can i enter ?  If i then win a seat after i've entered the all-in do i get kicked out ?
    Far too complaicated.

    Fine how it is.
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  • Chris_McChris_Mc
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: ALL IN SATS - discussion thread:
    but where do we draw the line ? I'm playing the semi final.  theres 7 left and 5 seats on offer.  The last all-in is about to start ?  Can i enter ?  If i then win a seat after i've entered the all-in do i get kicked out ? Far too complaicated. Fine how it is.
    Posted by 1267

    have too agree with this post, when u look at it like that.
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  • MohicanMohican
    edited March 2014
    on the flip side, player has bought in direct, now tries a couple of All-ins, doesn't win but now their entry has cost them more. Effectively given his buy-ins to the winning players. Seems fair.Leave it as is.
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  • BFC4EVER09BFC4EVER09
    edited March 2014
    i tried them myself a few times as a micro stakes player i try them just for the experience of playing against the much better players but only won once.. came 3rd a couple of times but sum1 who finished 2nd and as already got into the tourny has won the buy in money
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  • AcidMan27AcidMan27
    edited March 2014
    I was hoping this would be a tactical discussion.

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  • bev60bev60
    edited March 2014
    If it's one seat for x amount of £s in the prize pool doesn't that mean your getting the same odds no matter how many people play. So excluding people would just mean less games running.
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