best option pre flop?

THEROCK573

opening raise from utg im giving no credit at all, i have history with him and, hes very loose and an all round poor player, hes been opening rubbsih from all positions all game, the button who 3 bets is also a regfish, i dont feel hes ever strong here, think hes just getting sick of the opener, tricky part comes when the sb 4 bets, hes a decent reg but overplays big aces pre when mega deep, anyway i decide to flat in position as i feel the other 2 are allways folding. dont think when he jams turn he ever has anthing other than AA or KK so its an easy fold but preflop what do we think is the best line here to take player depndant of course?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
	Small blind		30.00	30.00	6216.88
THEROCK573	Big blind		60.00	90.00	7312.50
	Your hole cards	Q Q
1	Raise		120.00	210.00	11508.12
kapowblamz	Fold
jasondav1	Fold
2	Raise		300.00	510.00	2260.00
3	Raise		810.00	1320.00	5406.88
THEROCK573	Call		780.00	2100.00	6532.50
	Fold
	Fold
Flop
		6 10 2
3	Bet		1200.00	3300.00	4206.88
THEROCK573	Call		1200.00	4500.00	5332.50
Turn
		2
3	All-in		4206.88	8706.88	0.00
THEROCK573	Fold
	Muck
	Win		4500.00		4500.00
3	Return		4206.88	0.00	8706.88

THEROCK573

sorry if not enough info but trying to play while write, not easy for me, haha

DOHHHHHHH

What range do you give player 3 pre flop? Post flop is a rly uncomplicated runout, so if we can crack the pre flop hands the villain might have, the rest is pretty easy.

Think this is just a fold pre, cold 4 bets normally have Queens squashed.

Having said that, as played, I think I call the turn without further reads. 

It's a great turm for every hand that has us beat so why wud he ship the lot in?

Prob has AKdd.

Calllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

THEROCK573

In Response to Re: best option pre flop?:

What range do you give player 3 pre flop? Post flop is a rly uncomplicated runout, so if we can crack the pre flop hands the villain might have, the rest is pretty easy. Think this is just a fold pre, cold 4 bets normally have Queens squashed. Having said that, as played, I think I call the turn without further reads.  It's a great turm for every hand that has us beat so why wud he ship the lot in? Prob has AKdd. Calllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

well i would say he dosent have too wide of a 4 bet range especially from the sb, probs ur usual tag mtt player AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK. but ive seen him overplay AQ,AJ and A10 quite a bit but whether he 4 bets them i dont know , he dosent really play to many pots with me to be honest and i dont pay enough attention to his game cos im lazy. probs a fold pre the more i look at it but im just not capable of folding QQ haha.

DOHHHHHHH

I shouldn't post strategy, or play poker @ midnight on a weekend after an all dayer.

No surprise I've ended up putting him on Ace King. Doh.

Probably a good fold and he's lost out on lotza value.