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Short stack nearly always looses
I have noticed that the short stacks "all in" here on sky will nearly always lose to the bigger stacks call regardles of the big stacks hand.
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Not the case, but feel free to keep on thinking it.
People nearly always use the phrase "9 times out of 10" in these kinds of posts!
They'll probably flick your DOOM switch, too.
However, if you think you have an edge - use it to your advantage! Whenever you're in the pot with a smaller stick, just go all-in. According to your logic your opposition "will nearly always lose" :-)
I'm genuinely sorry you've been bashed up a bit on this thread, but you used the phrase "here on Sky", suggesting something improper. Those who responded see so many threads like this, so, to a degree, it's easy to understand their cynicism, & why they are so dismissive.
The truth is, you are probably right, that the short stack loses more than we might otherwise suppose. But it's not just "here on Sky", it's everywhere, both Online, & Live. And there is good logic to the theory, too.
By definition, short stacks have to shove, or call, with a FAR wider (worse) range of hands than would normally be the case if we were motoring along with an average stack. And the big stacks not only know this, but they have the luxury of taking on the short stack without endangering their Tourney life.
With a big stack, we'd be daft to get the lot in against another big stack if we have, say, A-3, or 2-2. If we have a micro-stack, we look at A-3 & 2-2 & it looks HUGE.
Shorties give big stacks odds to call, too. If we shove our 3 Bigs in all-in with 2-2, as we must & should, we are going to get multi-callers, as they all know our range is mega-wide.
It's simple logic, & nothing to do with Sky, which you imply.
When things are not going well, it's so easy, & it seems to be the modern thing, to point fingers at others, or external factors. Fact is, we need to look at ourselves. The problem arises BECAUSE we have a short stack, so the logical answer it to try & motor along with a larger stack. Then, if course, YOU can call the Shorties, & YOU can bust THEM.
I suspect you had a bad day yesterday, as I believe you've played thousands of games here on Sky Poker, so you know everything is tickity-boo or you would have skidaddled long ago.
Hope your luck soon changes.
and "nearly always"
hi k8, jononzie has been posting and playing here regularly for 5 years. he will already have constructive advice in mind, surely.
Of course if a true rookie came on here and said a similar thing, yes, attitudes towards them should be different :-)
i reckon jononzie was being funny.
and caught some
Right.
The thread title has been bugging me since it went up.
The word you are looking for is 'loses', not 'looses'. Otherwise it's an incomplete sentence without any context whatsoever.
Short stack nearly always loses. There's your thread title.
There. I feel better now.
But you're wrong: it doesn't.
Wow, I did not think it would cause all this fuss,(also not a comlaint just MY observation) TK I only said "here on sky" as this is mostly the only poker site I play now simply because it is the best with the best members, (mostly)I'm sure other site's short stack shove will be the same , also I mostly play BH,s so obviously any big stack will call the small stack's all in just for the head, I understand the odds will allways be close (at least 3/1) when heads up, its just my personal observation that the short stack will wait for half a hand and quite often be in front but get outdrawn luckily not my experience (to much), I also will never be surprised what the cards will lay down, which is one reason I play as Im not the best player in the world and need the luck that hold'em throws up. but I thank all who posted and wish them luck when short stacked (oh and I apologise for the illiteracy content of my post for all you budding Shakespear.s ) lol